So, one of our Professors doesn't like to say "support our t

[RiverguyVT]

"support our troops"
http://www.examiner.com/article/va-tec ... ps?cid=rss

Anyone ever have this nut?

[awesome guy]

"support our troops"
http://www.examiner.com/article/va-tec ... ps?cid=rss

Anyone ever have this nut?

Wonder if him and Ft. Hoodie are buddies?

[ip_law-hokie]

"support our troops"
http://www.examiner.com/article/va-tec ... ps?cid=rss

Anyone ever have this nut?

I think there's more than a little hyperbole here, but I agree with the sentiment that we do ourselves a disservice by glorifying war.

[Marine Hokie]

"support our troops"
http://www.examiner.com/article/va-tec ... ps?cid=rss

Anyone ever have this nut?

Wonder if him and Ft. Hoodie are buddies?

Which part of his article is incorrect? http://www.salon.com/2013/08/25/no_than ... he_troops/

[USN_Hokie]

"support our troops"
http://www.examiner.com/article/va-tec ... ps?cid=rss

Anyone ever have this nut?

I think there's more than a little hyperbole here, but I agree with the sentiment that we do ourselves a disservice by glorifying war.

Could you expand on that thought?

[awesome guy]

"support our troops"
http://www.examiner.com/article/va-tec ... ps?cid=rss

Anyone ever have this nut?

Wonder if him and Ft. Hoodie are buddies?

Which part of his article is incorrect? http://www.salon.com/2013/08/25/no_than ... he_troops/

seriously? H seems like a jihadist. The idea of America as imperial invaders is laughable.

[BigDave]

He's an English teacher???

He has a book called "Israel's DEAD SOUL". That tells me about all I need to know.

http://www.stevensalaita.com/Pages/books.html

"support our troops"
http://www.examiner.com/article/va-tec ... ps?cid=rss

Anyone ever have this nut?

[Marine Hokie]

What in his actual article is correct? I'm not talking about the Examiner piece or any of his personal views not in his article.
http://www.salon.com/2013/08/25/no_than ... he_troops/

"support our troops"
http://www.examiner.com/article/va-tec ... ps?cid=rss

Anyone ever have this nut?

Wonder if him and Ft. Hoodie are buddies?

Which part of his article is incorrect? http://www.salon.com/2013/08/25/no_than ... he_troops/

seriously? H seems like a jihadist. The idea of America as imperial invaders is laughable.

[ip_law-hokie]

"support our troops"
http://www.examiner.com/article/va-tec ... ps?cid=rss

Anyone ever have this nut?

I think there's more than a little hyperbole here, but I agree with the sentiment that we do ourselves a disservice by glorifying war.

Could you expand on that thought?

I think the actual Salon article the guy actually wrote states it well.

[awesome guy]

What in his actual article is correct? I'm not talking about the Examiner piece.

"support our troops"
http://www.examiner.com/article/va-tec ... ps?cid=rss

Anyone ever have this nut?

Wonder if him and Ft. Hoodie are buddies?

Which part of his article is incorrect? http://www.salon.com/2013/08/25/no_than ... he_troops/

seriously? H seems like a jihadist. The idea of America as imperial invaders is laughable.

that's on the other one too. The examiner piece nailed it, that guy is a piece of work. Given the NOVA islamic school, Ft. Hood shooter, and this guy...we may have an extremists problem at VT.

[Marine Hokie]

So be specific, what in his article was incorrect?

What in his actual article is correct? I'm not talking about the Examiner piece.

Wonder if him and Ft. Hoodie are buddies?

Which part of his article is incorrect? http://www.salon.com/2013/08/25/no_than ... he_troops/

seriously? H seems like a jihadist. The idea of America as imperial invaders is laughable.

that's on the other one too. The examiner piece nailed it, that guy is a piece of work. Given the NOVA islamic school, Ft. Hood shooter, and this guy...we may have an extremists problem at VT.

[awesome guy]

So be specific, what in his article was incorrect?

I was, you claimed imperialism wasn't in the piece but it was. And pretty much all of it is BS, that's just one of the most laughable accusations.

[Marine Hokie]

I never made that claim, I only implied that it wasn't something about Salaita's article that is incorrect.
I didn't realize there were people who don't believe American imperialism doesn't exist. I thought it was commonly accepted at this point that the US pretty much sets the standard for modern imperialism.

So be specific, what in his article was incorrect?

I was, you claimed imperialism wasn't in the piece but it was. And pretty much all of it is BS, that's just one of the most laughable accusations.

[awesome guy]

I never made that claim, I only implied that it wasn't something about Salaita's article that is incorrect.
I didn't realize there were people who don't believe American imperialism doesn't exist. I thought it was commonly accepted at this point that the US pretty much sets the standard for modern imperialism.

So be specific, what in his article was incorrect?

I was, you claimed imperialism wasn't in the piece but it was. And pretty much all of it is BS, that's just one of the most laughable accusations.

I think that's just the case in libertarian and jihadist circles. The American Empire is easily disproved by the fact we leave the nations we engage war with. Then you're left with "empire" meaning we support regimes friendly to us and oppose ones hostile towards us. And then you're really just left with meaning we engaging in global politics for our benefit. And that's exactly what everyone does, so it's just a slanderous term to say you don't like us looking out for ourselves.

[Homebrew]

I never made that claim, I only implied that it wasn't something about Salaita's article that is incorrect.
I didn't realize there were people who don't believe American imperialism doesn't exist. I thought it was commonly accepted at this point that the US pretty much sets the standard for modern imperialism.

So be specific, what in his article was incorrect?

I was, you claimed imperialism wasn't in the piece but it was. And pretty much all of it is BS, that's just one of the most laughable accusations.

Ahh yeah!??

[USN_Hokie]

"support our troops"
http://www.examiner.com/article/va-tec ... ps?cid=rss

Anyone ever have this nut?

I think there's more than a little hyperbole here, but I agree with the sentiment that we do ourselves a disservice by glorifying war.

Could you expand on that thought?

I think the actual Salon article the guy actually wrote states it well.

Meh, I'll agree with you that the article title is guilty of link/page hit trolling to a degree... and I refuse to let anyone try to guilt me into donating money into a jar on a counter for whatever cause (even if it's something that I normally donate to), but I think the author goes a little off the deep end after that....

[USN_Hokie]

I never made that claim, I only implied that it wasn't something about Salaita's article that is incorrect.
I didn't realize there were people who don't believe American imperialism doesn't exist. I thought it was commonly accepted at this point that the US pretty much sets the standard for modern imperialism.

So be specific, what in his article was incorrect?

I was, you claimed imperialism wasn't in the piece but it was. And pretty much all of it is BS, that's just one of the most laughable accusations.

WADR, I take particular exception to the phrase "American Imperialism." That's bullshirt...look at the definition of imperialism and tell me how it fits. Name one country that the US has an unequal economic relationship (at the point of a gun) with.

Even better, if we were guilty of imperialism....well that kind of blows the argument that were going broke fighting wars, doesn't it? Which is it? Are we profiteering imperialists, or world police bankrupting the country?

[Major Kong]

it took him 2,120 words to write something that should have taken no more than 500.

He reminded me a bit of H.P. Lovecraft...his works are excellent at the start and the middle. Lovecraft just had a problem with endings.

[Marine Hokie]

I think that's just the case in libertarian and jihadist circles.

I don't think that's true. Google benevolent imperialism. Plenty of republicans and democrats support US imperialism. Some call it what it is, some don't.

The American Empire is easily disproved by the fact we leave the nations we engage war with.

When did the US leave Hawaii, the land taken in the war with Mexico, the war with Spain, Japan, Germany, Iraq, Korea, etc?

Then you're left "empire" meaning we support regimes friendly to us and oppose ones hostile towards us. And then you're really just left with "empire" to meaning engaging in global politics for it's benefit. And that's exactly what everyone does, so it's just a slanderous term to say you don't like us looking out for ourselves.

Who is looking out for whom?

[Marine Hokie]

It's not just exploiting another country for money or natural resources.

the policy, practice, or advocacy of extending the power and dominion of a nation especially by direct territorial acquisitions or by gaining indirect control over the political or economic life of other areas

Dictionary definitions of complicated ideas aren't the greatest, but even this definition fits pretty well.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/imperialism

WADR, I take particular exception to the phrase "American Imperialism." That's bullshirt...look at the definition of imperialism and tell me how it fits. Name one country that the US has an unequal economic relationship (at the point of a gun) with.

Even better, if we were guilty of imperialism....well that kind of blows the argument that were going broke fighting wars, doesn't it? Which is it? Are we profiteering imperialists, or world police bankrupting the country?

[Marine Hokie]

Anyway, so is it just that you don't believe in American imperialism? Does he say anything else in the article you think is incorrect?

"support our troops"
http://www.examiner.com/article/va-tec ... ps?cid=rss

Anyone ever have this nut?

Wonder if him and Ft. Hoodie are buddies?

[CarlosDanger]

Until just now, I didn't know Hassan went to Virginia Tech and I live in Austin and read stories about him just about every day. Luckily, the Statesman never mentions the VT connection.

I went from there to the University of Texas. Two schools that have turned out the most notorious spree killers.

[USN_Hokie]

Can you name a country which fits even that (broad) definition? It doesn't fit Iraq, Afghanistan, or any other country in recent history.

It's not just exploiting another country for money or natural resources.

the policy, practice, or advocacy of extending the power and dominion of a nation especially by direct territorial acquisitions or by gaining indirect control over the political or economic life of other areas

Dictionary definitions of complicated ideas aren't the greatest, but even this definition fits pretty well.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/imperialism

WADR, I take particular exception to the phrase "American Imperialism." That's bullshirt...look at the definition of imperialism and tell me how it fits. Name one country that the US has an unequal economic relationship (at the point of a gun) with.

Even better, if we were guilty of imperialism....well that kind of blows the argument that were going broke fighting wars, doesn't it? Which is it? Are we profiteering imperialists, or world police bankrupting the country?

[USN_Hokie]

Until just now, I didn't know Hassan went to Virginia Tech and I live in Austin and read stories about him just about every day. Luckily, the Statesman never mentions the VT connection.

I went from there to the University of Texas. Two schools that have turned out the most notorious spree killers.

You're lucky, there were quite a few "journalists" making a point of it...including Couric iirc.

[Marine Hokie]

At a minimum, it fits all the countries I listed before, including Iraq and Afghanistan.
Just like socialism isn't identical in every time and place, neither is imperialism. For instance, British imperialism was entirely different that Roman imperialism. In the US, just like socialism is a dirty word, and most people who believe in socialism prefer to call themselves "progressives," imperialism is a dirty word. Imperialists prefer to say that the government is protecting "our" interests, defending our freedom, spreading democracy, etc. "Imperialism" was replaced with words like "American exceptionalism," "manifest destiny," or just "nation building," but the ideas aren't that much different. That they've decided it's cheaper and more palatable to us to use methods of control other than outright conquering doesn't change anything.

Can you name a country which fits even that (broad) definition? It doesn't fit Iraq, Afghanistan, or any other country in recent history.

It's not just exploiting another country for money or natural resources.

the policy, practice, or advocacy of extending the power and dominion of a nation especially by direct territorial acquisitions or by gaining indirect control over the political or economic life of other areas

Dictionary definitions of complicated ideas aren't the greatest, but even this definition fits pretty well.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/imperialism

WADR, I take particular exception to the phrase "American Imperialism." That's bullshirt...look at the definition of imperialism and tell me how it fits. Name one country that the US has an unequal economic relationship (at the point of a gun) with.

Even better, if we were guilty of imperialism....well that kind of blows the argument that were going broke fighting wars, doesn't it? Which is it? Are we profiteering imperialists, or world police bankrupting the country?