Rebuking ISIS

[VisorBoy]

I get the impression that some in the UWS community don't believe there's much of a difference between mainstream Islam and ISIS.

If true,

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/mi ... ttack.html

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... e=facebook

If not, carry on

[awesome guy]

I get the impression that some in the UWS community don't believe there's much of a difference between mainstream Islam and ISIS.

If true,

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/mi ... ttack.html

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... e=facebook

If not, carry on

What did he say in Arabic?

[133743Hokie]

I get the impression that some in the UWS community don't believe there's much of a difference between mainstream Islam and ISIS.

If true,

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/mi ... ttack.html

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... e=facebook

If not, carry on

Not sure where you got that from. I haven't seen that expressed anywhere on these boards. What has been said by some is don't condemn all of Islam for the action of ISIS, Al Quieda, etc.

My personal take is until the greater Islamic community stands up and with words and actions condemns the barbaric actions being committed by the organizations in the name of their religion then the collective "Islam/Muslim community" doesn't get a pass anymore. This has gone on long enough. As of now they are mostly silent (do they quietly agree, or are they afraid of being outspoken in their own community?) or just say it isn't reflective of all Muslims. I don't think that passes muster anymore.

[oaktonhokie]

There are 1 billion 500 million Muslims on this planet. The common myth is that 99.99999 99.999 percent of them are really wonderful people.

Really. Wonderful.

My estimate is that about a half of them are vermin. Either terrorists or sympathizers or they aid and abet the terrorism, or they lie, or they support Sharia law, or they slither into the country to get laws changed and attitudes changed to pave the way for Sharia in the next generation, or something.

If half of them are vermin, that means 750 million Muslims are decent people. You found a few.

Nice work detective.

I get the impression that some in the UWS community don't believe there's much of a difference between mainstream Islam and ISIS.

If true,

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/mi ... ttack.html

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... e=facebook

If not, carry on

[awesome guy]

I get the impression that some in the UWS community don't believe there's much of a difference between mainstream Islam and ISIS.

If true,

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/mi ... ttack.html

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... e=facebook

If not, carry on

Not sure where you got that from. I haven't seen that expressed anywhere on these boards. What has been said by some is don't condemn all of Islam for the action of ISIS, Al Quieda, etc.

My personal take is until the greater Islamic community stands up and with words and actions condemns the barbaric actions being committed by the organizations in the name of their religion then the collective "Islam/Muslim community" doesn't get a pass anymore. This has gone on long enough. As of now they are mostly silent (do they quietly agree, or are they afraid of being outspoken in their own community?) or just say it isn't reflective of all Muslims. I don't think that passes muster anymore.

My take is it's complicated. Muslims not wanting to kill the infidels are killed. So the remainder either want to kill the infidels or are too afraid to speak up. So the murderers end up running the show. On the other hand, the Muslims and especially those in the ME are world class liars and bull crapers. Yasser Arafat would denounce terrorism in English and then turn around and shout "death to the infidels!" in Arabic. I suspect such double speak here as no names are given and it's a vague and terse statement. There's another level of deception in Islam when they say "we don't kill the innocents". Well, in Islam, the innocent are just the Muslims and so everyone else is fair game. So there's just too much double speak and ambiguity to trust what they say since they're not trustworthy. The lack of action or turning over suspected jihadists tells us where their hearts are in my opinion. No one in their community is surprised by the names of the people performing the killings. They're likely even celebrating them.

[awesome guy]

There are 1 billion 500 million Muslims on this planet. The common myth is that 99.99999 99.999 percent of them are really wonderful people.

Really. Wonderful.

My estimate is that about a half of them are vermin. Either terrorists or sympathizers or they aid and abet the terrorism, or they lie, or they support Sharia law, or they slither into the country to get laws changed and attitudes changed to pave the way for Sharia in the next generation, or something.

If half of them are vermin, that means 750 million Muslims are decent people. You found a few.

Nice work detective.

I get the impression that some in the UWS community don't believe there's much of a difference between mainstream Islam and ISIS.

If true,

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/mi ... ttack.html

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... e=facebook

If not, carry on

I tend to agree. An appalling high percentage support death and mayhem. Certainly enough for them to control the remainder.


I also wonder if Achmed made a clock for gay Pari, as a token of friendship. They could put it on the Eiffel Tower and turn it into their version of Big Ben.

[Major Kong]

I get the impression that some in the UWS community don't believe there's much of a difference between mainstream Islam and ISIS.

If true,

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/mi ... ttack.html

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... e=facebook

If not, carry on

You're thinking Bill Mahr.

[VisorBoy]

There are 1 billion 500 million Muslims on this planet. The common myth is that 99.99999 99.999 percent of them are really wonderful people.

Really. Wonderful.

My estimate is that about a half of them are vermin. Either terrorists or sympathizers or they aid and abet the terrorism, or they lie, or they support Sharia law, or they slither into the country to get laws changed and attitudes changed to pave the way for Sharia in the next generation, or something.

If half of them are vermin, that means 750 million Muslims are decent people. You found a few.

Nice work detective.

I get the impression that some in the UWS community don't believe there's much of a difference between mainstream Islam and ISIS.

If true,

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/mi ... ttack.html

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... e=facebook

If not, carry on

Your unnecessary snark aside, what evidence do you base your "50%" opinion on?

[awesome guy]

There are 1 billion 500 million Muslims on this planet. The common myth is that 99.99999 99.999 percent of them are really wonderful people.

Really. Wonderful.

My estimate is that about a half of them are vermin. Either terrorists or sympathizers or they aid and abet the terrorism, or they lie, or they support Sharia law, or they slither into the country to get laws changed and attitudes changed to pave the way for Sharia in the next generation, or something.

If half of them are vermin, that means 750 million Muslims are decent people. You found a few.

Nice work detective.

I get the impression that some in the UWS community don't believe there's much of a difference between mainstream Islam and ISIS.

If true,

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/mi ... ttack.html

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... e=facebook

If not, carry on

Your unnecessary snark aside, what evidence do you base your "50%" opinion on?

Polls have terrorist support up to 75%

[USN_Hokie]

I get the impression that some in the UWS community don't believe there's much of a difference between mainstream Islam and ISIS.

If true,

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/mi ... ttack.html

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... e=facebook

If not, carry on

There are muslims who said the same thing after 9/11 (some were even invited to dinner at the Pentagon) who were subsequently put on terrorist watch lists and then incinerated by laser-guided bombs. I'm not saying all muslims are terrorists/terrorist sympathizers, just that the information you provided is worthless. The attendant at the gas station doesn't tell me he supports ISIS - Saudi Arabian clerics are no different (just a bigger gas pump).

Good businessmen don't offend their customers. Saudi Arabia doesn't like ISIS because the instability they create is bad for business.

[VisorBoy]

There are 1 billion 500 million Muslims on this planet. The common myth is that 99.99999 99.999 percent of them are really wonderful people.

Really. Wonderful.

My estimate is that about a half of them are vermin. Either terrorists or sympathizers or they aid and abet the terrorism, or they lie, or they support Sharia law, or they slither into the country to get laws changed and attitudes changed to pave the way for Sharia in the next generation, or something.

If half of them are vermin, that means 750 million Muslims are decent people. You found a few.

Nice work detective.

I get the impression that some in the UWS community don't believe there's much of a difference between mainstream Islam and ISIS.

If true,

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/mi ... ttack.html

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... e=facebook

If not, carry on

Your unnecessary snark aside, what evidence do you base your "50%" opinion on?

Polls have terrorist support up to 75%

Do you have a link? That seems incredibly high.

[awesome guy]

There are 1 billion 500 million Muslims on this planet. The common myth is that 99.99999 99.999 percent of them are really wonderful people.

Really. Wonderful.

My estimate is that about a half of them are vermin. Either terrorists or sympathizers or they aid and abet the terrorism, or they lie, or they support Sharia law, or they slither into the country to get laws changed and attitudes changed to pave the way for Sharia in the next generation, or something.

If half of them are vermin, that means 750 million Muslims are decent people. You found a few.

Nice work detective.

I get the impression that some in the UWS community don't believe there's much of a difference between mainstream Islam and ISIS.

If true,

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/mi ... ttack.html

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... e=facebook

If not, carry on

Your unnecessary snark aside, what evidence do you base your "50%" opinion on?

Polls have terrorist support up to 75%

Do you have a link? That seems incredibly high.

Http://google.com

[VisorBoy]

There are 1 billion 500 million Muslims on this planet. The common myth is that 99.99999 99.999 percent of them are really wonderful people.

Really. Wonderful.

My estimate is that about a half of them are vermin. Either terrorists or sympathizers or they aid and abet the terrorism, or they lie, or they support Sharia law, or they slither into the country to get laws changed and attitudes changed to pave the way for Sharia in the next generation, or something.

If half of them are vermin, that means 750 million Muslims are decent people. You found a few.

Nice work detective.

I get the impression that some in the UWS community don't believe there's much of a difference between mainstream Islam and ISIS.

If true,

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/mi ... ttack.html

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... e=facebook

If not, carry on

Your unnecessary snark aside, what evidence do you base your "50%" opinion on?

Polls have terrorist support up to 75%

Do you have a link? That seems incredibly high.

Http://google.com

Can you link to the actual poll you are referring to re: 75%? All I could find was a flawed poll by the Center for Security Policy, which didn't show 75%.

http://bridge.georgetown.edu/new-poll-o ... ith-flaws/

[VisorBoy]

I get the impression that some in the UWS community don't believe there's much of a difference between mainstream Islam and ISIS.

If true,

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/mi ... ttack.html

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... e=facebook

If not, carry on

There are muslims who said the same thing after 9/11 (some were even invited to dinner at the Pentagon) who were subsequently put on terrorist watch lists and then incinerated by laser-guided bombs. I'm not saying all muslims are terrorists/terrorist sympathizers, just that the information you provided is worthless. The attendant at the gas station doesn't tell me he supports ISIS - Saudi Arabian clerics are no different (just a bigger gas pump).

Good businessmen don't offend their customers. Saudi Arabia doesn't like ISIS because the instability they create is bad for business.

So the ones I quoted who protest ISIS you don't believe. Do you believe the ones who profess support?

[awesome guy]

There are 1 billion 500 million Muslims on this planet. The common myth is that 99.99999 99.999 percent of them are really wonderful people.

Really. Wonderful.

My estimate is that about a half of them are vermin. Either terrorists or sympathizers or they aid and abet the terrorism, or they lie, or they support Sharia law, or they slither into the country to get laws changed and attitudes changed to pave the way for Sharia in the next generation, or something.

If half of them are vermin, that means 750 million Muslims are decent people. You found a few.

Nice work detective.

Your unnecessary snark aside, what evidence do you base your "50%" opinion on?

Polls have terrorist support up to 75%

Do you have a link? That seems incredibly high.

Http://google.com

Can you link to the actual poll you are referring to re: 75%? All I could find was a flawed poll by the Center for Security Policy, which didn't show 75%.

http://bridge.georgetown.edu/new-poll-o ... ith-flaws/

Search. And not just some nutter site slandering legitimate polls.

[USN_Hokie]

There are muslims who said the same thing after 9/11 (some were even invited to dinner at the Pentagon) who were subsequently put on terrorist watch lists and then incinerated by laser-guided bombs. I'm not saying all muslims are terrorists/terrorist sympathizers, just that the information you provided is worthless. The attendant at the gas station doesn't tell me he supports ISIS - Saudi Arabian clerics are no different (just a bigger gas pump).

Good businessmen don't offend their customers. Saudi Arabia doesn't like ISIS because the instability they create is bad for business.

So the ones I quoted who protest ISIS you don't believe. Do you believe the ones who profess support?

Why not, what do they have to gain by lying? OTOH, there is plenty to gain by feigning outrage.

[absolutvt03]

Do you have a link? That seems incredibly high.

Don't ask awesome guy for proof to back up his assertions. It's your job to prove his arguments for him... at least in his mind.

[RiverguyVT]

I get the impression that some in the UWS community don't believe there's much of a difference between mainstream Islam and ISIS.

If true,

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/mi ... ttack.html

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... e=facebook

If not, carry on

There are muslims who said the same thing after 9/11 (some were even invited to dinner at the Pentagon) who were subsequently put on terrorist watch lists and then incinerated by laser-guided bombs. I'm not saying all muslims are terrorists/terrorist sympathizers, just that the information you provided is worthless. The attendant at the gas station doesn't tell me he supports ISIS - Saudi Arabian clerics are no different (just a bigger gas pump).

Good businessmen don't offend their customers. Saudi Arabia doesn't like ISIS because the instability they create is bad for business.

So the ones I quoted who protest ISIS you don't believe. Do you believe the ones who profess support?

No. It is foolish for a non-mohammedian to believe them. It is very well documented that, in their faith, a lie is not a lie if told to a non-mohammedian. That is not a jihadist position only; it is not a radicalist poition only. It is their belief and supported by koranian dictates. Essentially, they are instructed to deceive non-mohammedians.

Eff 'em.

[Uprising]

I get the impression that some in the UWS community don't believe there's much of a difference between mainstream Islam and ISIS.

If true,

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/mi ... ttack.html

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... e=facebook

If not, carry on

There are muslims who said the same thing after 9/11 (some were even invited to dinner at the Pentagon) who were subsequently put on terrorist watch lists and then incinerated by laser-guided bombs. I'm not saying all muslims are terrorists/terrorist sympathizers, just that the information you provided is worthless. The attendant at the gas station doesn't tell me he supports ISIS - Saudi Arabian clerics are no different (just a bigger gas pump).

Good businessmen don't offend their customers. Saudi Arabia doesn't like ISIS because the instability they create is bad for business.

So the ones I quoted who protest ISIS you don't believe. Do you believe the ones who profess support?

No. It is foolish for a non-mohammedian to believe them. It is very well documented that, in their faith, a lie is not a lie if told to a non-mohammedian. That is not a jihadist position only; it is not a radicalist poition only. It is their belief and supported by koranian dictates. Essentially, they are instructed to deceive non-mohammedians.

Eff 'em.

This is a lie told by ignorant, Muslim hating Christians, like you and Ben Carson.

[awesome guy]

I get the impression that some in the UWS community don't believe there's much of a difference between mainstream Islam and ISIS.

If true,

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/mi ... ttack.html

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... e=facebook

If not, carry on

There are muslims who said the same thing after 9/11 (some were even invited to dinner at the Pentagon) who were subsequently put on terrorist watch lists and then incinerated by laser-guided bombs. I'm not saying all muslims are terrorists/terrorist sympathizers, just that the information you provided is worthless. The attendant at the gas station doesn't tell me he supports ISIS - Saudi Arabian clerics are no different (just a bigger gas pump).

Good businessmen don't offend their customers. Saudi Arabia doesn't like ISIS because the instability they create is bad for business.

So the ones I quoted who protest ISIS you don't believe. Do you believe the ones who profess support?

No. It is foolish for a non-mohammedian to believe them. It is very well documented that, in their faith, a lie is not a lie if told to a non-mohammedian. That is not a jihadist position only; it is not a radicalist poition only. It is their belief and supported by koranian dictates. Essentially, they are instructed to deceive non-mohammedians.

Eff 'em.

This is a lie told by ignorant, Muslim hating Christians, like you and Ben Carson.

You're lying. Totally not shocked

[Major Kong]

This is a lie told by ignorant, Muslim hating Christians, like you and Ben Carson.

I believe Riverguy is referring to Taqiya which has morphed from it's original Shia meaning to a more contemporary meaning.

[Uprising]

This is a lie told by ignorant, Muslim hating Christians, like you and Ben Carson.

I believe Riverguy is referring to Taqiya which has morphed from it's original Shia meaning to a more contemporary meaning.

I know what he's talking about. It's the same ignorant lie Carson brought up.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fac ... our-goals/

[awesome guy]

This is a lie told by ignorant, Muslim hating Christians, like you and Ben Carson.

I believe Riverguy is referring to Taqiya which has morphed from it's original Shia meaning to a more contemporary meaning.

yes, that's what he's referencing. But it's always been interpreted as deception for war and the promotion of Islam. It was part of how Mohammed conquered the Middle East in the first place. Another good rule of thumb when figuring out if lying and murder are poetic commands or literal one, just see how Mohammed acted. He made it all up and his bloodthirsty reign is the example for which to properly interpret.


http://www.meforum.org/2538/taqiyya-islam-rules-of-war

[ip_law-hokie]

I get the impression that some in the UWS community don't believe there's much of a difference between mainstream Islam and ISIS.

If true,

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/mi ... ttack.html

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... e=facebook

If not, carry on

There are muslims who said the same thing after 9/11 (some were even invited to dinner at the Pentagon) who were subsequently put on terrorist watch lists and then incinerated by laser-guided bombs. I'm not saying all muslims are terrorists/terrorist sympathizers, just that the information you provided is worthless. The attendant at the gas station doesn't tell me he supports ISIS - Saudi Arabian clerics are no different (just a bigger gas pump).

Good businessmen don't offend their customers. Saudi Arabia doesn't like ISIS because the instability they create is bad for business.

So the ones I quoted who protest ISIS you don't believe. Do you believe the ones who profess support?

No. It is foolish for a non-mohammedian to believe them. It is very well documented that, in their faith, a lie is not a lie if told to a non-mohammedian. That is not a jihadist position only; it is not a radicalist poition only. It is their belief and supported by koranian dictates. Essentially, they are instructed to deceive non-mohammedians.

Eff 'em.

Just dropping in here for one post, if I may.

Why do you call muslims mohammedians? Is that a slur, or do they use the term? Does it mean something besides muslims? I look forward to your reply, if so inclined, and thank you in advance.

[Major Kong]

Just dropping in here for one post, if I may.

Why do you call muslims mohammedians? Is that a slur, or do they use the term? Does it mean something besides muslims? I look forward to your reply, if so inclined, and thank you in advance.

I've never heard that Mohammedian is a slur...interesting.