There is a touch of outrage in Dearborn today...
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There is a touch of outrage in Dearborn today...
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they may want to start building more prisons nowMajor Kong wrote:Female genital mutilation now a 15-year felony in Michigan
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Re: There is a touch of outrage in Dearborn today...
It's been a Federal Law since '97 but the max penalty was 5 years...the State of Michigan has upped the prison time to 15 years.cwtcr hokie wrote:they may want to start building more prisons nowMajor Kong wrote:Female genital mutilation now a 15-year felony in Michigan
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It should be 25 years.
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15 sounds light
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Agreed. Barbaric.Bay_area_Hokie wrote:15 sounds light
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The big argument I've heard is well why is it alright to mutilate boys (circumcision) but not girlsHokieFanDC wrote:Agreed. Barbaric.
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You beat me to it. There's no reason in first world countries to circumcise boys. It really is mutilation IMO, though the consequences are admittedly far less.Major Kong wrote:The big argument I've heard is well why is it alright to mutilate boys (circumcision) but not girlsHokieFanDC wrote:Agreed. Barbaric.
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Don't they do it girls though so that sex is painful; hence they won't sleep around?Major Kong wrote:The big argument I've heard is well why is it alright to mutilate boys (circumcision) but not girlsHokieFanDC wrote:Agreed. Barbaric.
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Bay_area_Hokie wrote:Don't they do it girls though so that sex is painful; hence they won't sleep around?Major Kong wrote:The big argument I've heard is well why is it alright to mutilate boys (circumcision) but not girlsHokieFanDC wrote:Agreed. Barbaric.
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Clitoridectomy is the most common form of genital mutilation.
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It varies greatly, anywhere from a "prick" (excuse the pun) to the clitoris (don't think that's common though) to removal of the clitoris, to actually stitching up part of the inner labia (idea obviously being that this would make sex incredibly painful).Bay_area_Hokie wrote:Don't they do it girls though so that sex is painful; hence they won't sleep around?Major Kong wrote:The big argument I've heard is well why is it alright to mutilate boys (circumcision) but not girlsHokieFanDC wrote:Agreed. Barbaric.
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The whole thing is disgusting, but according to multiculturalists like Visor this is what we need and can't judge.
Also, H2 thinks that some FGM will solve all of Japan's problems.
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Arabs must have little junk to need a stitch before childbirth.USN_Hokie wrote:It varies greatly, anywhere from a "prick" (excuse the pun) to the clitoris (don't think that's common though) to removal of the clitoris, to actually stitching up part of the inner labia (idea obviously being that this would make sex incredibly painful).Bay_area_Hokie wrote:Don't they do it girls though so that sex is painful; hence they won't sleep around?Major Kong wrote:The big argument I've heard is well why is it alright to mutilate boys (circumcision) but not girlsHokieFanDC wrote:Agreed. Barbaric.
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The whole thing is disgusting, but according to multiculturalists like Visor this is what we need and can't judge.
Also, H2 thinks that some FGM will solve all of Japan's problems.
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LOL- cmon guys, please do better, you are VT grads allegedly... One is harmless and has documented cleanliness benefits and does not affect sexual activity/fertility AT ALL.. the other essentially removes the pleasure organ of a female, and affects sexual pleasure and function for life. Please do better college grads... if you MUST compare, cutting off a females clitoris is the same as cutting of a boys testicles.. THAT is the comparison... not harmless, unnecessary foreskin.. jesus.Major Kong wrote:The big argument I've heard is well why is it alright to mutilate boys (circumcision) but not girlsHokieFanDC wrote:Agreed. Barbaric.
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That is absolutely false.CFB Apologist wrote:
LOL- cmon guys, please do better, you are VT grads allegedly... One is harmless and has documented cleanliness benefits and does not affect sexual activity/fertility AT ALL..
The "cleanliness" talking point is only applicable to AIDS / STD infected populations in Sub-Saharan Africa, and even there it's disputed.
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By the way, the clitoris is complimentary to the penis, not the testes. A hysterectomy would be analogous to a removal of the testes.CFB Apologist wrote:. if you MUST compare, cutting off a females clitoris is the same as cutting of a boys testicles.. THAT is the comparison... not harmless, unnecessary foreskin.. jesus.
The two procedures are more similar than you think.
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Sorry USN.. cutting off the clitoris - the pleasure organ for a female and key to sexual desire and function is in no way comparable to cutting off unnecessary foreskin that has nothing to do with sexual function or pleasure.. not remotely comparable. An accurate comparison is cosmetic exterior labia trimming.. harmless and does not affect sexual function... the clitoris?? cmon man.. you are better than this.USN_Hokie wrote:By the way, the clitoris is complimentary to the penis, not the testes. A hysterectomy would be analogous to a removal of the testes.CFB Apologist wrote:. if you MUST compare, cutting off a females clitoris is the same as cutting of a boys testicles.. THAT is the comparison... not harmless, unnecessary foreskin.. jesus.
The two procedures are more similar than you think.
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one removes the skin, the other the appendage. They're not the same.USN_Hokie wrote:By the way, the clitoris is complimentary to the penis, not the testes. A hysterectomy would be analogous to a removal of the testes.CFB Apologist wrote:. if you MUST compare, cutting off a females clitoris is the same as cutting of a boys testicles.. THAT is the comparison... not harmless, unnecessary foreskin.. jesus.
The two procedures are more similar than you think.
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Yep- whatever procedure you could do to render a male impotent and unable to enjoy sex is the comparison here.. NOT removing foreskin 24 hours after birth where you cant feel it or remember it.awesome guy wrote:one removes the skin, the other the appendage. They're not the same.USN_Hokie wrote:By the way, the clitoris is complimentary to the penis, not the testes. A hysterectomy would be analogous to a removal of the testes.CFB Apologist wrote:. if you MUST compare, cutting off a females clitoris is the same as cutting of a boys testicles.. THAT is the comparison... not harmless, unnecessary foreskin.. jesus.
The two procedures are more similar than you think.
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That makes no sense. The penis is the pleasure organ for men, and the foreskin contains something like 1/3 of the sensory tissue for the organ. Just because it still works does not mean it's not impacted. Calling the foreskin "unnecessary" is just laughable.CFB Apologist wrote:Sorry USN.. cutting off the clitoris - the pleasure organ for a female and key to sexual desire and function is in no way comparable to cutting off unnecessary foreskin that has nothing to do with sexual function or pleasure.. not remotely comparable. An accurate comparison is cosmetic exterior labia trimming.. harmless and does not affect sexual function... the clitoris?? cmon man.. you are better than this.USN_Hokie wrote:By the way, the clitoris is complimentary to the penis, not the testes. A hysterectomy would be analogous to a removal of the testes.CFB Apologist wrote:. if you MUST compare, cutting off a females clitoris is the same as cutting of a boys testicles.. THAT is the comparison... not harmless, unnecessary foreskin.. jesus.
The two procedures are more similar than you think.
Mutilation of the clitoris is directly correlative to mutilation of the penis. As I said before, the penis is never mutilated to the extent that the clitoris is.
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I said in my first response that FGM was usually far more extensive with greater implications. That doesn't take away from the fact that they are both mutilations of the organ.awesome guy wrote:one removes the skin, the other the appendage. They're not the same.USN_Hokie wrote:By the way, the clitoris is complimentary to the penis, not the testes. A hysterectomy would be analogous to a removal of the testes.CFB Apologist wrote:. if you MUST compare, cutting off a females clitoris is the same as cutting of a boys testicles.. THAT is the comparison... not harmless, unnecessary foreskin.. jesus.
The two procedures are more similar than you think.
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You're right on the anatomy part. Just check out what happens to female body builders, athletes, and in general ones on steroids. The clit becomes a penis, as happens in the womb and we all start out as female and then us chosen individuals evolve into males when hormones enter the womb. But the foreskin being removed isn't a big impact.USN_Hokie wrote:That makes no sense. The penis is the pleasure organ for men, and the foreskin contains something like 1/3 of the sensory tissue for the organ. Just because it still works does not mean it's not impacted. Calling the foreskin "unnecessary" is just laughable.CFB Apologist wrote:Sorry USN.. cutting off the clitoris - the pleasure organ for a female and key to sexual desire and function is in no way comparable to cutting off unnecessary foreskin that has nothing to do with sexual function or pleasure.. not remotely comparable. An accurate comparison is cosmetic exterior labia trimming.. harmless and does not affect sexual function... the clitoris?? cmon man.. you are better than this.USN_Hokie wrote:By the way, the clitoris is complimentary to the penis, not the testes. A hysterectomy would be analogous to a removal of the testes.CFB Apologist wrote:. if you MUST compare, cutting off a females clitoris is the same as cutting of a boys testicles.. THAT is the comparison... not harmless, unnecessary foreskin.. jesus.
The two procedures are more similar than you think.
Mutilation of the clitoris is directly correlative to mutilation of the penis. As I said before, the penis is never mutilated to the extent that the clitoris is.
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Here's studies showing increased risk of narrow urethra, trauma (this one is really interesting), premature ejaculation, decreased sensitivity after circumcision.
Incidence of asymptomatic meatal stenosis (narrow urethra) in children following neonatal circumcision.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20851685
Incidence of meatal stenosis following neonatal circumcision in a primary care setting.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16429216
Alexithymia and Circumcision Trauma: A Preliminary Investigation
http://www.mensstudies.info/OJS/index.p ... e/view/614
Prevalence and correlates of premature ejaculation in a primary care setting: a preliminary cross-sectional study.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21492404
Male circumcision decreases penile sensitivity as measured in a large cohort.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2337 ... t=Abstract
Fine-touch pressure thresholds in the adult penis.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17378847
Comparison of ring block, dorsal penile nerve block, and topical anesthesia for neonatal circumcision: a randomized controlled trial.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9417009
......but I'm supposedly the one making anti-science arguments in this thread.
I get it - people who have been cut will defend that decision. Your junk still works, got it. That doesn't mean your current configuration is better than what you were born with and man evolved to over millions of years.
Incidence of asymptomatic meatal stenosis (narrow urethra) in children following neonatal circumcision.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20851685
Incidence of meatal stenosis following neonatal circumcision in a primary care setting.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16429216
Alexithymia and Circumcision Trauma: A Preliminary Investigation
http://www.mensstudies.info/OJS/index.p ... e/view/614
Prevalence and correlates of premature ejaculation in a primary care setting: a preliminary cross-sectional study.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21492404
Male circumcision decreases penile sensitivity as measured in a large cohort.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2337 ... t=Abstract
Fine-touch pressure thresholds in the adult penis.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17378847
Comparison of ring block, dorsal penile nerve block, and topical anesthesia for neonatal circumcision: a randomized controlled trial.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9417009
......but I'm supposedly the one making anti-science arguments in this thread.
I get it - people who have been cut will defend that decision. Your junk still works, got it. That doesn't mean your current configuration is better than what you were born with and man evolved to over millions of years.
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Does anyone here know the koran? What does the koran have to say about the practice (on women)?
I am presuming it to be a cultural phenomenon, but not a koranic one, but I'd be totally guessing.
I am presuming it to be a cultural phenomenon, but not a koranic one, but I'd be totally guessing.
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Forgot to add: Anyone know someone who was not circumcised and now wishes they were as an adult? Aside from the rare person who had a medical issue, there's none I'm aware of.USN_Hokie wrote:Here's studies showing increased risk of narrow urethra, trauma (this one is really interesting), premature ejaculation, decreased sensitivity after circumcision.
Incidence of asymptomatic meatal stenosis (narrow urethra) in children following neonatal circumcision.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20851685
Incidence of meatal stenosis following neonatal circumcision in a primary care setting.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16429216
Alexithymia and Circumcision Trauma: A Preliminary Investigation
http://www.mensstudies.info/OJS/index.p ... e/view/614
Prevalence and correlates of premature ejaculation in a primary care setting: a preliminary cross-sectional study.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21492404
Male circumcision decreases penile sensitivity as measured in a large cohort.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2337 ... t=Abstract
Fine-touch pressure thresholds in the adult penis.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17378847
Comparison of ring block, dorsal penile nerve block, and topical anesthesia for neonatal circumcision: a randomized controlled trial.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9417009
......but I'm supposedly the one making anti-science arguments in this thread.
I get it - people who have been cut will defend that decision. Your junk still works, got it. That doesn't mean your current configuration is better than what you were born with and man evolved to over millions of years.
Aren't they the right people to ask about it being useless?
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Almost like it's a cause or something...USN_Hokie wrote:Here's studies showing increased risk of narrow urethra, trauma (this one is really interesting), premature ejaculation, decreased sensitivity after circumcision.
Incidence of asymptomatic meatal stenosis (narrow urethra) in children following neonatal circumcision.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20851685
Incidence of meatal stenosis following neonatal circumcision in a primary care setting.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16429216
Alexithymia and Circumcision Trauma: A Preliminary Investigation
http://www.mensstudies.info/OJS/index.p ... e/view/614
Prevalence and correlates of premature ejaculation in a primary care setting: a preliminary cross-sectional study.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21492404
Male circumcision decreases penile sensitivity as measured in a large cohort.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2337 ... t=Abstract
Fine-touch pressure thresholds in the adult penis.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17378847
Comparison of ring block, dorsal penile nerve block, and topical anesthesia for neonatal circumcision: a randomized controlled trial.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9417009
......but I'm supposedly the one making anti-science arguments in this thread.
I get it - people who have been cut will defend that decision. Your junk still works, got it. That doesn't mean your current configuration is better than what you were born with and man evolved to over millions of years.
So I put (the dead dog) on her doorstep!
Salute the Marines
Soon we'll have planes that fly 22000 mph
"#PedoPete" = Hunter's name for his dad.
Salute the Marines
Soon we'll have planes that fly 22000 mph
"#PedoPete" = Hunter's name for his dad.