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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 4:57 pm 
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http://www.thedailybeast.com/koch-broth ... t-dreamers

The quotes are quite striking.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 5:06 pm 
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nova1111 wrote:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/koch-brothers-will-push-congress-to-protect-dreamers

The quotes are quite striking.


you do realize you can apply to become a citizen of the USA? So what is stopping the people here illegally or on some other special status?


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 5:28 pm 
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cwtcr hokie wrote:
nova1111 wrote:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/koch-brothers-will-push-congress-to-protect-dreamers

The quotes are quite striking.


you do realize you can apply to become a citizen of the USA? So what is stopping the people here illegally or on some other special status?


Here's an article on that. It's not easy, and the number restrictions hit potential US citizens from Mexico especially hard. Low number permitted. Huge waiting list. Could take many years. But aside from that, it could cause many of them to have to leave at least for a while, and that's the entire point of all of this. They have no place to go to -- no families, friends, home, no ties at all with the 'old countries.' The majority have seldom been to their 'home country' and many of them were infants when they were brought here and have never been back. They have no ties whatsoever to those other countries and have developed their lives here solely.


But anyway, a number of the legislative solutions thus far have a clearer path to citizenship for these folks, and I hope the ultimate solution opens that for all of them.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 5:31 pm 
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nova1111 wrote:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/koch-brothers-will-push-congress-to-protect-dreamers

The quotes are quite striking.


All good stuff. Trump is doing the right thing here, and Congress is now under the gun to do the right thing. Tough one for the GOP, though. Many in the base don't want to give them a path.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 6:09 pm 
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HokieFanDC wrote:
nova1111 wrote:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/koch-brothers-will-push-congress-to-protect-dreamers

The quotes are quite striking.


All good stuff. Trump is doing the right thing here, and Congress is now under the gun to do the right thing. Tough one for the GOP, though. Many in the base don't want to give them a path.

Essentially only the Dems want a path to citizenship. legislation needs to give them a path to permanent resident status. Not citizenship. Not voting rights. And they need to take away the chain immigration from them. If they really were brought here without their consent or knowledge, essentially by methods out of their control, then they shouldn't have any need to trail in all of their extended family.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:32 am 
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HokieFanDC wrote:
nova1111 wrote:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/koch-brothers-will-push-congress-to-protect-dreamers

The quotes are quite striking.


All good stuff. Trump is doing the right thing here, and Congress is now under the gun to do the right thing. Tough one for the GOP, though. Many in the base don't want to give them a path.


100% not true.. the dems have successfully brainwashed you that "trumpers" are against all immigration.. not true.. Repubs and the "base" support and want more efficient LEGAL immigration. But that sucks, because its "hard" for ms13 kids to do that. It's "unfair" for leaders of child sex slave rings and rapist to do that. Dems want an open border with mexico, because they think brown people automatically vote for them.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:34 am 
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nova1111 wrote:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/koch-brothers-will-push-congress-to-protect-dreamers

The quotes are quite striking.


They need maids and nannys..


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:50 am 
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CFB Apologist wrote:
nova1111 wrote:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/koch-brothers-will-push-congress-to-protect-dreamers

The quotes are quite striking.


They need maids and nannys..

...and gardeners, and manual laborers, and field hands, etc. See a pattern here?


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:55 am 
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133743Hokie wrote:
CFB Apologist wrote:
nova1111 wrote:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/koch-brothers-will-push-congress-to-protect-dreamers

The quotes are quite striking.


They need maids and nannys..

...and gardeners, and manual laborers, and field hands, etc. See a pattern here?


Amazed how little people understand this.

Just like their lefty pals in silicon valley, they don't give a rat's backside about mexicans, that is nothing more than a convenient cover. What they want is access to educated and $.10 on the dollar paid engineers and tech workers from India, China, etc.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:08 am 
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Vienna_Hokie wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:
CFB Apologist wrote:
nova1111 wrote:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/koch-brothers-will-push-congress-to-protect-dreamers

The quotes are quite striking.


They need maids and nannys..

...and gardeners, and manual laborers, and field hands, etc. See a pattern here?


Amazed how little people understand this.

Just like their lefty pals in silicon valley, they don't give a rat's backside about mexicans, that is nothing more than a convenient cover. What they want is access to educated and $.10 on the dollar paid engineers and tech workers from India, China, etc.


It's not close to .10 cent on the dollar anymore, but I get your point. Any technically skilled Indian resource is making decent money in America in 2017..them working for 30K to code software days are long over


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