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USN_Hokie wrote:
WestEndHokie39 wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
BG Hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
Techmomof2 wrote:Bullet holes found in aviation tanks at the Las Vegas airport and over 200 rounds shot down the hallway at Mandalay.

repost of the 2 most important websites I've found.

This:
I have collected many articles, but these sum it up.
MS-13, Antifa, ISIS, intertwined
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdW0ijV ... e=youtu.be


Understanding the Threat (check out their resources and research)
https://www.understandingthethreat.com/ ... las-vegas/
That appears to be a source of questionable credibility.


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TM02 has always been one to post and seemingly buy into conspiracy theories. I will say, this particular shooting seems to have relatively normal folks, maybe some on here, that think there is more to the story. But I'm seeing a lot more folks that think it's a conspiracy than typical.
I agree that this situation is very strange. My skepticism of this particular article was the strange reference to left-wing political activity. It seems to have been oddly planted there to play to a certain audience.

I've also seen some infowars links being thrown around too, which is unfortunate.


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Agreed- this crime is unique in that absolutely nothing has come to light to shed any insight into motive. No social media rantings, no "manifesto" of any sort, or no traumatic illness/incident at this point in time.

My wild guess at this point was a rapid descent into mental illness, although I believe it manifests itself at an earlier age. Maybe a physiological cause?

Very strange...
I'm leaning more towards thinking that this guy was supposed to have some help, and they didn't show up.

I think the brother knows a lot more than he's letting on. Something stinks to high heaven there.

I also think the assumption that he made millions over 20yrs playing video poker is false. I think the gambling (and real estate) was a front for something else.
I bet the dad had a D.B. Coppers level money bag and they're living off that.[/quote]

your problem goes back to there is documentation of the guys activities, his work history and any RE deals and I would imagine his gambling but I will wait and see what they find
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awesome guy wrote:
WestEndHokie39 wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
BG Hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
Techmomof2 wrote:Bullet holes found in aviation tanks at the Las Vegas airport and over 200 rounds shot down the hallway at Mandalay.

repost of the 2 most important websites I've found.

This:
I have collected many articles, but these sum it up.
MS-13, Antifa, ISIS, intertwined
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdW0ijV ... e=youtu.be


Understanding the Threat (check out their resources and research)
https://www.understandingthethreat.com/ ... las-vegas/
That appears to be a source of questionable credibility.


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TM02 has always been one to post and seemingly buy into conspiracy theories. I will say, this particular shooting seems to have relatively normal folks, maybe some on here, that think there is more to the story. But I'm seeing a lot more folks that think it's a conspiracy than typical.
I agree that this situation is very strange. My skepticism of this particular article was the strange reference to left-wing political activity. It seems to have been oddly planted there to play to a certain audience.

I've also seen some infowars links being thrown around too, which is unfortunate.


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Agreed- this crime is unique in that absolutely nothing has come to light to shed any insight into motive. No social media rantings, no "manifesto" of any sort, or no traumatic illness/incident at this point in time.

My wild guess at this point was a rapid descent into mental illness, although I believe it manifests itself at an earlier age. Maybe a physiological cause?

Very strange...
They're saying now that he planned this for years. I'm not sure, I wonder if his fortune was finding some of his daddy's bank robbery money and that's what the family lived off of and why they're promoting him as a financial genius mailman, to hide the source of the money. Not sure though how any of that would lead to years of planning this unless the money was running out and he was releasing anger about having to live a lie for so long. Gays seem to suffer the same way and act hatefully later on.

On the conspiracy side, there should be a mound of casings after firing thousands of rounds. Didn't see a single casing in the pictures, so where are they?
1960 bank robbery money would last how long in today's dollars? A few mortgage payments?
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BG Hokie wrote:
awesome guy wrote:
WestEndHokie39 wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
BG Hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote: That appears to be a source of questionable credibility.


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TM02 has always been one to post and seemingly buy into conspiracy theories. I will say, this particular shooting seems to have relatively normal folks, maybe some on here, that think there is more to the story. But I'm seeing a lot more folks that think it's a conspiracy than typical.
I agree that this situation is very strange. My skepticism of this particular article was the strange reference to left-wing political activity. It seems to have been oddly planted there to play to a certain audience.

I've also seen some infowars links being thrown around too, which is unfortunate.


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Agreed- this crime is unique in that absolutely nothing has come to light to shed any insight into motive. No social media rantings, no "manifesto" of any sort, or no traumatic illness/incident at this point in time.

My wild guess at this point was a rapid descent into mental illness, although I believe it manifests itself at an earlier age. Maybe a physiological cause?

Very strange...
They're saying now that he planned this for years. I'm not sure, I wonder if his fortune was finding some of his daddy's bank robbery money and that's what the family lived off of and why they're promoting him as a financial genius mailman, to hide the source of the money. Not sure though how any of that would lead to years of planning this unless the money was running out and he was releasing anger about having to live a lie for so long. Gays seem to suffer the same way and act hatefully later on.

On the conspiracy side, there should be a mound of casings after firing thousands of rounds. Didn't see a single casing in the pictures, so where are they?
1960 bank robbery money would last how long in today's dollars? A few mortgage payments?
Depends on amount and what they did with it.
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I did not get the vibe that his dad was that successful at his chosen crimes.
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cwtcr hokie wrote:I did not get the vibe that his dad was that successful at his chosen crimes.
People seem to be grasping at straws on this one. I'm with cwcter on this one, no conspiracy, just shirty psychopath had the means and wanted to commit a mass shooting.
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I just want more details. I want to see the videos of him bringing the guns up the room in cases, going back and forth to his car in the garage, etc. I just want this guy's movements tracked from end to end, as we have all been in casinos and know they have about 1000 cameras.
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cwtcr hokie wrote:I did not get the vibe that his dad was that successful at his chosen crimes.
He was on the most wanted list. I doubt he robbed just 1 bank.
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Bay_area_Hokie wrote:I just want more details. I want to see the videos of him bringing the guns up the room in cases, going back and forth to his car in the garage, etc. I just want this guy's movements tracked from end to end, as we have all been in casinos and know they have about 1000 cameras.
He was there for days, getting an arsenal to his room in luggage, slowly but surely, doesn't seem that difficult to me. I assume at some point he cut off maid service and kept the do not disturb sign up.
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BG Hokie wrote:
Bay_area_Hokie wrote:I just want more details. I want to see the videos of him bringing the guns up the room in cases, going back and forth to his car in the garage, etc. I just want this guy's movements tracked from end to end, as we have all been in casinos and know they have about 1000 cameras.
He was there for days, getting an arsenal to his room in luggage, slowly but surely, doesn't seem that difficult to me. I assume at some point he cut off maid service and kept the do not disturb sign up.
I don't understand why people are hung up on this. In a Vegas casino bellhops would be tripping over themselves to roll 7 pelican cases up to his room without a second thought. Nobody would blink an eye.
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USN_Hokie wrote:
BG Hokie wrote:
Bay_area_Hokie wrote:I just want more details. I want to see the videos of him bringing the guns up the room in cases, going back and forth to his car in the garage, etc. I just want this guy's movements tracked from end to end, as we have all been in casinos and know they have about 1000 cameras.
He was there for days, getting an arsenal to his room in luggage, slowly but surely, doesn't seem that difficult to me. I assume at some point he cut off maid service and kept the do not disturb sign up.
I don't understand why people are hung up on this. In a Vegas casino bellhops would be tripping over themselves to roll 7 pelican cases up to his room without a second thought. Nobody would blink an eye.
I suspect they're thinking he came in like Elmore Fud, with them in hand or over his shoulder.
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BG Hokie wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:I did not get the vibe that his dad was that successful at his chosen crimes.
People seem to be grasping at straws on this one. I'm with cwcter on this one, no conspiracy, just shirty psychopath had the means and wanted to commit a mass shooting.
reports are he had scoped out and booked rooms at other large outdoor concerts , lollapalooza for one so it appears he did not hate rednecks or conservatives.... just wanted to make humans bleed and die....great human
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Bay_area_Hokie wrote:I just want more details. I want to see the videos of him bringing the guns up the room in cases, going back and forth to his car in the garage, etc. I just want this guy's movements tracked from end to end, as we have all been in casinos and know they have about 1000 cameras.
what is unusual about luggage, some women have 10 suitcases for a two day stay, there is nothing unusual about luggage
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awesome guy wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:I did not get the vibe that his dad was that successful at his chosen crimes.
He was on the most wanted list. I doubt he robbed just 1 bank.
he was also in prison for awhile and in hiding for awhile then back in prison, I don't care to do the research but my guess is he was he bad news bears of bank robbers
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cwtcr hokie wrote:
awesome guy wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:I did not get the vibe that his dad was that successful at his chosen crimes.
He was on the most wanted list. I doubt he robbed just 1 bank.
he was also in prison for awhile and in hiding for awhile then back in prison, I don't care to do the research but my guess is he was he bad news bears of bank robbers
I read up a bit. He was a career criminal, moved around leaving surprised neighbors at each arrest. He was also suspected, yet never charged, of several other bank robberies. He had a stash for sure. Not sure if something big enough that the family lived off of since, but he had unrecovered monies for sure.
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