That was tough to watch. If we are jumping to conclusions, I'd go with gambling addict who had a score to settle with Vegas.USN_Hokie wrote:ISIS is taking credit for this and saying he was a recent muslim convert, for whatever that's worth. They usually don't make claims like that unless the perp has some relationship...
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/breakingn ... spartanntp
Good for you. But as I said, and stand by, a lot of accountants would be out of work. Which is one reason they are against it.Hokie CPA wrote:No we wouldn't. I could live on my attestation income. And even if they go the Fair Tax, there will still be required filings that a great many people won't want to do.133743Hokie wrote:Just go to the Fair Tax and be done with it. Of course a lot of accountants would have to go on welfare!Hokie CPA wrote:Well, I'm in the "I'll believe that when I see it" camp. I'll be absolutely stunned if we ever have a Congress and a President who see so eye-to-eye that they agree to scrap the entire tax code in favor of a system that drops all deductions and credits in favor of a "tell us how much you made, now give us x% of it" method. The rich will bitch about the lack of deductions while the poor will bitch about having to actually pay taxes.RiverguyVT wrote:An accountant? Maybe he didn't like the idea of single page tax returns.
And oh, by the way? A whole bunch of filers (I don't know the percentage) DO file a one-page return. The 1040-EZ is available to taxpayers who only have certain types of income (no interest, dividends, self-employment, rental, etc), earn less than $100,000, have no dependents, and are either single or married filing a joint return.
As for the rest of us, most of those additional pages are used to detail your income sources. There is no way to do a one-page return for people who currently file Schedules B, C, D, E, and F because those are all support for the income figures reported on the front of the 1040!
The accountants lobby? Is there such a thing.133743Hokie wrote:Good for you. But as I said, and stand by, a lot of accountants would be out of work. Which is one reason they are against it.Hokie CPA wrote:No we wouldn't. I could live on my attestation income. And even if they go the Fair Tax, there will still be required filings that a great many people won't want to do.133743Hokie wrote:Just go to the Fair Tax and be done with it. Of course a lot of accountants would have to go on welfare!Hokie CPA wrote:Well, I'm in the "I'll believe that when I see it" camp. I'll be absolutely stunned if we ever have a Congress and a President who see so eye-to-eye that they agree to scrap the entire tax code in favor of a system that drops all deductions and credits in favor of a "tell us how much you made, now give us x% of it" method. The rich will bitch about the lack of deductions while the poor will bitch about having to actually pay taxes.RiverguyVT wrote:
And oh, by the way? A whole bunch of filers (I don't know the percentage) DO file a one-page return. The 1040-EZ is available to taxpayers who only have certain types of income (no interest, dividends, self-employment, rental, etc), earn less than $100,000, have no dependents, and are either single or married filing a joint return.
As for the rest of us, most of those additional pages are used to detail your income sources. There is no way to do a one-page return for people who currently file Schedules B, C, D, E, and F because those are all support for the income figures reported on the front of the 1040!
All professional societies lobby. And more and more they are raising funds for their PACs.ip_law-hokie wrote:The accountants lobby? Is there such a thing.133743Hokie wrote:Good for you. But as I said, and stand by, a lot of accountants would be out of work. Which is one reason they are against it.Hokie CPA wrote:No we wouldn't. I could live on my attestation income. And even if they go the Fair Tax, there will still be required filings that a great many people won't want to do.133743Hokie wrote:Just go to the Fair Tax and be done with it. Of course a lot of accountants would have to go on welfare!Hokie CPA wrote:Well, I'm in the "I'll believe that when I see it" camp. I'll be absolutely stunned if we ever have a Congress and a President who see so eye-to-eye that they agree to scrap the entire tax code in favor of a system that drops all deductions and credits in favor of a "tell us how much you made, now give us x% of it" method. The rich will bitch about the lack of deductions while the poor will bitch about having to actually pay taxes.RiverguyVT wrote:
And oh, by the way? A whole bunch of filers (I don't know the percentage) DO file a one-page return. The 1040-EZ is available to taxpayers who only have certain types of income (no interest, dividends, self-employment, rental, etc), earn less than $100,000, have no dependents, and are either single or married filing a joint return.
As for the rest of us, most of those additional pages are used to detail your income sources. There is no way to do a one-page return for people who currently file Schedules B, C, D, E, and F because those are all support for the income figures reported on the front of the 1040!
I'm not ready to buy into that line of thinking. There will always be a need for accountants.
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He's a nutcase regardless for sure. Arguing over motivation is really just a discussion of how it manifested.ip_law-hokie wrote:That was tough to watch. If we are jumping to conclusions, I'd go with gambling addict who had a score to settle with Vegas.USN_Hokie wrote:ISIS is taking credit for this and saying he was a recent muslim convert, for whatever that's worth. They usually don't make claims like that unless the perp has some relationship...
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/breakingn ... spartanntp
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UpstateSCHokie wrote:Democrats already running to politicize this and call for gun control. Except this guy was using a gun that already illegal.
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Democrats Immediately Call For Gun Control After Las Vegas Shooting
Peter Hasson
10:22 AM 10/02/2017
Congressional Democrats chose not to wait for all the facts to come in before immediately pushing for increased gun control measures following the Las Vegas shooting Sunday night that left 50 people dead and more than 400 injured.
It’s not yet clear how the shooter, 64-year-old Stephen Paddock, acquired his guns or if gun control measures could have prevented him from obtaining them, but leading Democrats are already demanding stricter gun control legislation.
Connecticut Sen. Chris Murphy issued a statement Monday morning claiming that “the thoughts and prayers of politicians are cruelly hollow if they are paired with continued legislative indifference.” Murphy demanded Congress “get off its ass and do something” following the shooting.
“Tragedies like Las Vegas have happened too many times,” Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren wrote on Twitter. “We need to have the conversation about how to stop gun violence. We need it NOW.”
Twice-failed presidential candidate Hillary Clinton attacked the National Rifle Association (NRA).
“Our grief isn’t enough. We can and must put politics aside, stand up to the NRA, and work together to try to stop this from happening again,” Clinton wrote.
“As after #Orlando, I will NOT be joining my colleagues in a moment of silence on the House Floor that just becomes an excuse for inaction,” Massachusetts Rep. Seth Moulton wrote.
“Thinking of everyone in #LasVegas, and praying Congress will have the courage to do more than stand in silence to commemorate them,” Moulton wrote in another tweet.
New York Rep. Carolyn Maloney demanded Congress “show they care by taking action” on gun control.
“It has been barely a year since what was previously the largest mass shooting in American history — the deadly attack at Pulse nightclub. In the interim, thousands more have been lost to the daily, ruthless toll of gun violence,” Connecticut Sen. Richard Blumenthal said in a statement.
“Still, Congress refuses to act. I am more than frustrated, I am furious.”
http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/02/democ ... -shooting/
My money is on the weapon being modified as your link suggests. That said, there's nothing complicated about bump firing a gun, though. You don't even need any device to do that and there's no real way to ban a technique....ip_law-hokie wrote:You sure?
Ryan Cleckner, a former U.S. Army Ranger sniper and author of “Long Range Shooting Handbook,” said the seemingly inconsistent rate of Paddock’s shooting may indicate he was using a device to mimic full-auto fire.
These devices, such as a Slide Fire stock, are legal and can be bought for about $300.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/02/la ... -evil.html
UpstateSCHokie wrote:Democrats already running to politicize this and call for gun control. Except this guy was using a gun that already illegal.
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Democrats Immediately Call For Gun Control After Las Vegas Shooting
Peter Hasson
10:22 AM 10/02/2017
Congressional Democrats chose not to wait for all the facts to come in before immediately pushing for increased gun control measures following the Las Vegas shooting Sunday night that left 50 people dead and more than 400 injured.
It’s not yet clear how the shooter, 64-year-old Stephen Paddock, acquired his guns or if gun control measures could have prevented him from obtaining them, but leading Democrats are already demanding stricter gun control legislation.
Connecticut Sen. Chris Murphy issued a statement Monday morning claiming that “the thoughts and prayers of politicians are cruelly hollow if they are paired with continued legislative indifference.” Murphy demanded Congress “get off its ass and do something” following the shooting.
“Tragedies like Las Vegas have happened too many times,” Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren wrote on Twitter. “We need to have the conversation about how to stop gun violence. We need it NOW.”
Twice-failed presidential candidate Hillary Clinton attacked the National Rifle Association (NRA).
“Our grief isn’t enough. We can and must put politics aside, stand up to the NRA, and work together to try to stop this from happening again,” Clinton wrote.
“As after #Orlando, I will NOT be joining my colleagues in a moment of silence on the House Floor that just becomes an excuse for inaction,” Massachusetts Rep. Seth Moulton wrote.
“Thinking of everyone in #LasVegas, and praying Congress will have the courage to do more than stand in silence to commemorate them,” Moulton wrote in another tweet.
New York Rep. Carolyn Maloney demanded Congress “show they care by taking action” on gun control.
“It has been barely a year since what was previously the largest mass shooting in American history — the deadly attack at Pulse nightclub. In the interim, thousands more have been lost to the daily, ruthless toll of gun violence,” Connecticut Sen. Richard Blumenthal said in a statement.
“Still, Congress refuses to act. I am more than frustrated, I am furious.”
http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/02/democ ... -shooting/
Plenty of time to discuss later, but I personally think the negatives of allowing any gun that can be "bump fired" outweigh the positives. It seems that we could all at least agree that there should be some heightened scrutiny required to purchase a gun that can be easily modified in this manner.USN_Hokie wrote:My money is on the weapon being modified as your link suggests. That said, there's nothing complicated about bump firing a gun, though. You don't even need any device to do that and there's no real way to ban a technique....ip_law-hokie wrote:You sure?
Ryan Cleckner, a former U.S. Army Ranger sniper and author of “Long Range Shooting Handbook,” said the seemingly inconsistent rate of Paddock’s shooting may indicate he was using a device to mimic full-auto fire.
These devices, such as a Slide Fire stock, are legal and can be bought for about $300.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/02/la ... -evil.html
UpstateSCHokie wrote:Democrats already running to politicize this and call for gun control. Except this guy was using a gun that already illegal.
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Democrats Immediately Call For Gun Control After Las Vegas Shooting
Peter Hasson
10:22 AM 10/02/2017
Congressional Democrats chose not to wait for all the facts to come in before immediately pushing for increased gun control measures following the Las Vegas shooting Sunday night that left 50 people dead and more than 400 injured.
It’s not yet clear how the shooter, 64-year-old Stephen Paddock, acquired his guns or if gun control measures could have prevented him from obtaining them, but leading Democrats are already demanding stricter gun control legislation.
Connecticut Sen. Chris Murphy issued a statement Monday morning claiming that “the thoughts and prayers of politicians are cruelly hollow if they are paired with continued legislative indifference.” Murphy demanded Congress “get off its ass and do something” following the shooting.
“Tragedies like Las Vegas have happened too many times,” Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren wrote on Twitter. “We need to have the conversation about how to stop gun violence. We need it NOW.”
Twice-failed presidential candidate Hillary Clinton attacked the National Rifle Association (NRA).
“Our grief isn’t enough. We can and must put politics aside, stand up to the NRA, and work together to try to stop this from happening again,” Clinton wrote.
“As after #Orlando, I will NOT be joining my colleagues in a moment of silence on the House Floor that just becomes an excuse for inaction,” Massachusetts Rep. Seth Moulton wrote.
“Thinking of everyone in #LasVegas, and praying Congress will have the courage to do more than stand in silence to commemorate them,” Moulton wrote in another tweet.
New York Rep. Carolyn Maloney demanded Congress “show they care by taking action” on gun control.
“It has been barely a year since what was previously the largest mass shooting in American history — the deadly attack at Pulse nightclub. In the interim, thousands more have been lost to the daily, ruthless toll of gun violence,” Connecticut Sen. Richard Blumenthal said in a statement.
“Still, Congress refuses to act. I am more than frustrated, I am furious.”
http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/02/democ ... -shooting/
Why? I'd rather deal with the occasional nut than a nut like you leaving us disarmed from government tyranny.ip_law-hokie wrote:Plenty of time to discuss later, but I personally think the negatives of allowing any gun that can be "bump fired" outweigh the positives. It seems that we could all at least agree that there should be some heightened scrutiny required to purchase a gun that can be easily modified in this manner.USN_Hokie wrote:My money is on the weapon being modified as your link suggests. That said, there's nothing complicated about bump firing a gun, though. You don't even need any device to do that and there's no real way to ban a technique....ip_law-hokie wrote:You sure?
Ryan Cleckner, a former U.S. Army Ranger sniper and author of “Long Range Shooting Handbook,” said the seemingly inconsistent rate of Paddock’s shooting may indicate he was using a device to mimic full-auto fire.
These devices, such as a Slide Fire stock, are legal and can be bought for about $300.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/02/la ... -evil.html
UpstateSCHokie wrote:Democrats already running to politicize this and call for gun control. Except this guy was using a gun that already illegal.
========================================
Democrats Immediately Call For Gun Control After Las Vegas Shooting
Peter Hasson
10:22 AM 10/02/2017
Congressional Democrats chose not to wait for all the facts to come in before immediately pushing for increased gun control measures following the Las Vegas shooting Sunday night that left 50 people dead and more than 400 injured.
It’s not yet clear how the shooter, 64-year-old Stephen Paddock, acquired his guns or if gun control measures could have prevented him from obtaining them, but leading Democrats are already demanding stricter gun control legislation.
Connecticut Sen. Chris Murphy issued a statement Monday morning claiming that “the thoughts and prayers of politicians are cruelly hollow if they are paired with continued legislative indifference.” Murphy demanded Congress “get off its ass and do something” following the shooting.
“Tragedies like Las Vegas have happened too many times,” Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren wrote on Twitter. “We need to have the conversation about how to stop gun violence. We need it NOW.”
Twice-failed presidential candidate Hillary Clinton attacked the National Rifle Association (NRA).
“Our grief isn’t enough. We can and must put politics aside, stand up to the NRA, and work together to try to stop this from happening again,” Clinton wrote.
“As after #Orlando, I will NOT be joining my colleagues in a moment of silence on the House Floor that just becomes an excuse for inaction,” Massachusetts Rep. Seth Moulton wrote.
“Thinking of everyone in #LasVegas, and praying Congress will have the courage to do more than stand in silence to commemorate them,” Moulton wrote in another tweet.
New York Rep. Carolyn Maloney demanded Congress “show they care by taking action” on gun control.
“It has been barely a year since what was previously the largest mass shooting in American history — the deadly attack at Pulse nightclub. In the interim, thousands more have been lost to the daily, ruthless toll of gun violence,” Connecticut Sen. Richard Blumenthal said in a statement.
“Still, Congress refuses to act. I am more than frustrated, I am furious.”
http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/02/democ ... -shooting/
You're talking about every semi-auto rifle made.ip_law-hokie wrote:Plenty of time to discuss later, but I personally think the negatives of allowing any gun that can be "bump fired" outweigh the positives. It seems that we could all at least agree that there should be some heightened scrutiny required to purchase a gun that can be easily modified in this manner.USN_Hokie wrote:My money is on the weapon being modified as your link suggests. That said, there's nothing complicated about bump firing a gun, though. You don't even need any device to do that and there's no real way to ban a technique....ip_law-hokie wrote:You sure?
Ryan Cleckner, a former U.S. Army Ranger sniper and author of “Long Range Shooting Handbook,” said the seemingly inconsistent rate of Paddock’s shooting may indicate he was using a device to mimic full-auto fire.
These devices, such as a Slide Fire stock, are legal and can be bought for about $300.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/02/la ... -evil.html
UpstateSCHokie wrote:Democrats already running to politicize this and call for gun control. Except this guy was using a gun that already illegal.
========================================
Democrats Immediately Call For Gun Control After Las Vegas Shooting
Peter Hasson
10:22 AM 10/02/2017
Congressional Democrats chose not to wait for all the facts to come in before immediately pushing for increased gun control measures following the Las Vegas shooting Sunday night that left 50 people dead and more than 400 injured.
It’s not yet clear how the shooter, 64-year-old Stephen Paddock, acquired his guns or if gun control measures could have prevented him from obtaining them, but leading Democrats are already demanding stricter gun control legislation.
Connecticut Sen. Chris Murphy issued a statement Monday morning claiming that “the thoughts and prayers of politicians are cruelly hollow if they are paired with continued legislative indifference.” Murphy demanded Congress “get off its ass and do something” following the shooting.
“Tragedies like Las Vegas have happened too many times,” Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren wrote on Twitter. “We need to have the conversation about how to stop gun violence. We need it NOW.”
Twice-failed presidential candidate Hillary Clinton attacked the National Rifle Association (NRA).
“Our grief isn’t enough. We can and must put politics aside, stand up to the NRA, and work together to try to stop this from happening again,” Clinton wrote.
“As after #Orlando, I will NOT be joining my colleagues in a moment of silence on the House Floor that just becomes an excuse for inaction,” Massachusetts Rep. Seth Moulton wrote.
“Thinking of everyone in #LasVegas, and praying Congress will have the courage to do more than stand in silence to commemorate them,” Moulton wrote in another tweet.
New York Rep. Carolyn Maloney demanded Congress “show they care by taking action” on gun control.
“It has been barely a year since what was previously the largest mass shooting in American history — the deadly attack at Pulse nightclub. In the interim, thousands more have been lost to the daily, ruthless toll of gun violence,” Connecticut Sen. Richard Blumenthal said in a statement.
“Still, Congress refuses to act. I am more than frustrated, I am furious.”
http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/02/democ ... -shooting/
So be it.USN_Hokie wrote:You're talking about every semi-auto rifle made.ip_law-hokie wrote:Plenty of time to discuss later, but I personally think the negatives of allowing any gun that can be "bump fired" outweigh the positives. It seems that we could all at least agree that there should be some heightened scrutiny required to purchase a gun that can be easily modified in this manner.USN_Hokie wrote:My money is on the weapon being modified as your link suggests. That said, there's nothing complicated about bump firing a gun, though. You don't even need any device to do that and there's no real way to ban a technique....ip_law-hokie wrote:You sure?
Ryan Cleckner, a former U.S. Army Ranger sniper and author of “Long Range Shooting Handbook,” said the seemingly inconsistent rate of Paddock’s shooting may indicate he was using a device to mimic full-auto fire.
These devices, such as a Slide Fire stock, are legal and can be bought for about $300.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/02/la ... -evil.html
UpstateSCHokie wrote:Democrats already running to politicize this and call for gun control. Except this guy was using a gun that already illegal.
========================================
Democrats Immediately Call For Gun Control After Las Vegas Shooting
Peter Hasson
10:22 AM 10/02/2017
Congressional Democrats chose not to wait for all the facts to come in before immediately pushing for increased gun control measures following the Las Vegas shooting Sunday night that left 50 people dead and more than 400 injured.
It’s not yet clear how the shooter, 64-year-old Stephen Paddock, acquired his guns or if gun control measures could have prevented him from obtaining them, but leading Democrats are already demanding stricter gun control legislation.
Connecticut Sen. Chris Murphy issued a statement Monday morning claiming that “the thoughts and prayers of politicians are cruelly hollow if they are paired with continued legislative indifference.” Murphy demanded Congress “get off its ass and do something” following the shooting.
“Tragedies like Las Vegas have happened too many times,” Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren wrote on Twitter. “We need to have the conversation about how to stop gun violence. We need it NOW.”
Twice-failed presidential candidate Hillary Clinton attacked the National Rifle Association (NRA).
“Our grief isn’t enough. We can and must put politics aside, stand up to the NRA, and work together to try to stop this from happening again,” Clinton wrote.
“As after #Orlando, I will NOT be joining my colleagues in a moment of silence on the House Floor that just becomes an excuse for inaction,” Massachusetts Rep. Seth Moulton wrote.
“Thinking of everyone in #LasVegas, and praying Congress will have the courage to do more than stand in silence to commemorate them,” Moulton wrote in another tweet.
New York Rep. Carolyn Maloney demanded Congress “show they care by taking action” on gun control.
“It has been barely a year since what was previously the largest mass shooting in American history — the deadly attack at Pulse nightclub. In the interim, thousands more have been lost to the daily, ruthless toll of gun violence,” Connecticut Sen. Richard Blumenthal said in a statement.
“Still, Congress refuses to act. I am more than frustrated, I am furious.”
http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/02/democ ... -shooting/
CBS Legal Exec: No Sympathy For Vegas ‘Because Country Music Fans Often Are Republican
http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/02/cbs-l ... epublican/
You're welcome to come to my house and try. Thankfully, we have a Constitution to protect us from people like you.ip_law-hokie wrote:So be it.USN_Hokie wrote: You're talking about every semi-auto rifle made.
If the gun was legal, it will be interested to see how this is handled by our populist president.USN_Hokie wrote:Thankfully, we have a Constitution to protect us from people like you. Ideology has killed far more people than guns have...ip_law-hokie wrote:So be it.USN_Hokie wrote: You're talking about every semi-auto rifle made.
I read thatUSN_Hokie wrote:CBS Legal Exec: No Sympathy For Vegas ‘Because Country Music Fans Often Are Republican
http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/02/cbs-l ... epublican/
of course CBS is looking into it.
which requires paperwork to buy alreadyUSN_Hokie wrote:You're talking about every semi-auto rifle made.ip_law-hokie wrote:Plenty of time to discuss later, but I personally think the negatives of allowing any gun that can be "bump fired" outweigh the positives. It seems that we could all at least agree that there should be some heightened scrutiny required to purchase a gun that can be easily modified in this manner.USN_Hokie wrote:My money is on the weapon being modified as your link suggests. That said, there's nothing complicated about bump firing a gun, though. You don't even need any device to do that and there's no real way to ban a technique....ip_law-hokie wrote:You sure?
Ryan Cleckner, a former U.S. Army Ranger sniper and author of “Long Range Shooting Handbook,” said the seemingly inconsistent rate of Paddock’s shooting may indicate he was using a device to mimic full-auto fire.
These devices, such as a Slide Fire stock, are legal and can be bought for about $300.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/02/la ... -evil.html
UpstateSCHokie wrote:Democrats already running to politicize this and call for gun control. Except this guy was using a gun that already illegal.
========================================
Democrats Immediately Call For Gun Control After Las Vegas Shooting
Peter Hasson
10:22 AM 10/02/2017
Congressional Democrats chose not to wait for all the facts to come in before immediately pushing for increased gun control measures following the Las Vegas shooting Sunday night that left 50 people dead and more than 400 injured.
It’s not yet clear how the shooter, 64-year-old Stephen Paddock, acquired his guns or if gun control measures could have prevented him from obtaining them, but leading Democrats are already demanding stricter gun control legislation.
Connecticut Sen. Chris Murphy issued a statement Monday morning claiming that “the thoughts and prayers of politicians are cruelly hollow if they are paired with continued legislative indifference.” Murphy demanded Congress “get off its ass and do something” following the shooting.
“Tragedies like Las Vegas have happened too many times,” Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren wrote on Twitter. “We need to have the conversation about how to stop gun violence. We need it NOW.”
Twice-failed presidential candidate Hillary Clinton attacked the National Rifle Association (NRA).
“Our grief isn’t enough. We can and must put politics aside, stand up to the NRA, and work together to try to stop this from happening again,” Clinton wrote.
“As after #Orlando, I will NOT be joining my colleagues in a moment of silence on the House Floor that just becomes an excuse for inaction,” Massachusetts Rep. Seth Moulton wrote.
“Thinking of everyone in #LasVegas, and praying Congress will have the courage to do more than stand in silence to commemorate them,” Moulton wrote in another tweet.
New York Rep. Carolyn Maloney demanded Congress “show they care by taking action” on gun control.
“It has been barely a year since what was previously the largest mass shooting in American history — the deadly attack at Pulse nightclub. In the interim, thousands more have been lost to the daily, ruthless toll of gun violence,” Connecticut Sen. Richard Blumenthal said in a statement.
“Still, Congress refuses to act. I am more than frustrated, I am furious.”
http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/02/democ ... -shooting/
we just need some kind of computer that can tell the exact moment someone loses their excrement.... and eliminates them from the planetip_law-hokie wrote:If the gun was legal, it will be interested to see how this is handled by our populist president.USN_Hokie wrote:Thankfully, we have a Constitution to protect us from people like you. Ideology has killed far more people than guns have...ip_law-hokie wrote:So be it.USN_Hokie wrote: You're talking about every semi-auto rifle made.
Maybe you should wait for the bodies to get cold before you try to leverage this for political gain.ip_law-hokie wrote:If the gun was legal, it will be interested to see how this is handled by our populist president.USN_Hokie wrote:Thankfully, we have a Constitution to protect us from people like you. Ideology has killed far more people than guns have...ip_law-hokie wrote:So be it.USN_Hokie wrote: You're talking about every semi-auto rifle made.
I'm trying to have a reasonable, civil discussion here USN.USN_Hokie wrote:Maybe you should wait for the bodies to get cold before you try to leverage this for political gain.ip_law-hokie wrote:If the gun was legal, it will be interested to see how this is handled by our populist president.USN_Hokie wrote:Thankfully, we have a Constitution to protect us from people like you. Ideology has killed far more people than guns have...ip_law-hokie wrote:So be it.USN_Hokie wrote: You're talking about every semi-auto rifle made.
I seriously doubt the machine gun was legally obtained. It's odd though how your ilk fixates on this as killing 58 is the most illegal of the laws broken.ip_law-hokie wrote:I'm trying to have a reasonable, civil discussion here USN.USN_Hokie wrote:Maybe you should wait for the bodies to get cold before you try to leverage this for political gain.ip_law-hokie wrote:If the gun was legal, it will be interested to see how this is handled by our populist president.USN_Hokie wrote:Thankfully, we have a Constitution to protect us from people like you. Ideology has killed far more people than guns have...ip_law-hokie wrote:So be it.USN_Hokie wrote: You're talking about every semi-auto rifle made.
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So you are advocating outlawing all semi automatic firearms, including manufacture and confiscation? How are you going to shut down the internet manufacture?ip_law-hokie wrote:So be it.USN_Hokie wrote:You're talking about every semi-auto rifle made.ip_law-hokie wrote:Plenty of time to discuss later, but I personally think the negatives of allowing any gun that can be "bump fired" outweigh the positives. It seems that we could all at least agree that there should be some heightened scrutiny required to purchase a gun that can be easily modified in this manner.USN_Hokie wrote:My money is on the weapon being modified as your link suggests. That said, there's nothing complicated about bump firing a gun, though. You don't even need any device to do that and there's no real way to ban a technique....ip_law-hokie wrote:You sure?
Ryan Cleckner, a former U.S. Army Ranger sniper and author of “Long Range Shooting Handbook,” said the seemingly inconsistent rate of Paddock’s shooting may indicate he was using a device to mimic full-auto fire.
These devices, such as a Slide Fire stock, are legal and can be bought for about $300.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/02/la ... -evil.html
UpstateSCHokie wrote:Democrats already running to politicize this and call for gun control. Except this guy was using a gun that already illegal.
========================================
Democrats Immediately Call For Gun Control After Las Vegas Shooting
Peter Hasson
10:22 AM 10/02/2017
Congressional Democrats chose not to wait for all the facts to come in before immediately pushing for increased gun control measures following the Las Vegas shooting Sunday night that left 50 people dead and more than 400 injured.
It’s not yet clear how the shooter, 64-year-old Stephen Paddock, acquired his guns or if gun control measures could have prevented him from obtaining them, but leading Democrats are already demanding stricter gun control legislation.
Connecticut Sen. Chris Murphy issued a statement Monday morning claiming that “the thoughts and prayers of politicians are cruelly hollow if they are paired with continued legislative indifference.” Murphy demanded Congress “get off its ass and do something” following the shooting.
“Tragedies like Las Vegas have happened too many times,” Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren wrote on Twitter. “We need to have the conversation about how to stop gun violence. We need it NOW.”
Twice-failed presidential candidate Hillary Clinton attacked the National Rifle Association (NRA).
“Our grief isn’t enough. We can and must put politics aside, stand up to the NRA, and work together to try to stop this from happening again,” Clinton wrote.
“As after #Orlando, I will NOT be joining my colleagues in a moment of silence on the House Floor that just becomes an excuse for inaction,” Massachusetts Rep. Seth Moulton wrote.
“Thinking of everyone in #LasVegas, and praying Congress will have the courage to do more than stand in silence to commemorate them,” Moulton wrote in another tweet.
New York Rep. Carolyn Maloney demanded Congress “show they care by taking action” on gun control.
“It has been barely a year since what was previously the largest mass shooting in American history — the deadly attack at Pulse nightclub. In the interim, thousands more have been lost to the daily, ruthless toll of gun violence,” Connecticut Sen. Richard Blumenthal said in a statement.
“Still, Congress refuses to act. I am more than frustrated, I am furious.”
http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/02/democ ... -shooting/
[/quote]UpstateSCHokie wrote:Democrats already running to politicize this and call for gun control. Except this guy was using a gun that already illegal.
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Democrats Immediately Call For Gun Control After Las Vegas Shooting
Peter Hasson
10:22 AM 10/02/2017
Congressional Democrats chose not to wait for all the facts to come in before immediately pushing for increased gun control measures following the Las Vegas shooting Sunday night that left 50 people dead and more than 400 injured.
It’s not yet clear how the shooter, 64-year-old Stephen Paddock, acquired his guns or if gun control measures could have prevented him from obtaining them, but leading Democrats are already demanding stricter gun control legislation.
Connecticut Sen. Chris Murphy issued a statement Monday morning claiming that “the thoughts and prayers of politicians are cruelly hollow if they are paired with continued legislative indifference.” Murphy demanded Congress “get off its ass and do something” following the shooting.
“Tragedies like Las Vegas have happened too many times,” Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren wrote on Twitter. “We need to have the conversation about how to stop gun violence. We need it NOW.”
Twice-failed presidential candidate Hillary Clinton attacked the National Rifle Association (NRA).
“Our grief isn’t enough. We can and must put politics aside, stand up to the NRA, and work together to try to stop this from happening again,” Clinton wrote.
“As after #Orlando, I will NOT be joining my colleagues in a moment of silence on the House Floor that just becomes an excuse for inaction,” Massachusetts Rep. Seth Moulton wrote.
“Thinking of everyone in #LasVegas, and praying Congress will have the courage to do more than stand in silence to commemorate them,” Moulton wrote in another tweet.
New York Rep. Carolyn Maloney demanded Congress “show they care by taking action” on gun control.
“It has been barely a year since what was previously the largest mass shooting in American history — the deadly attack at Pulse nightclub. In the interim, thousands more have been lost to the daily, ruthless toll of gun violence,” Connecticut Sen. Richard Blumenthal said in a statement.
“Still, Congress refuses to act. I am more than frustrated, I am furious.”
http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/02/democ ... -shooting/
