Vegas: 20+ killed, up to 100 injured at music festival.

[USN_Hokie]

I have mentioned I believe that I don't view abortion as a murder of a living person. I think the Roe court reached the correct decision. My empathy here lies with those on the planet, including the mother.

I respect your opinion.


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I don't follow. What's magical about the passing through the vagina which transforms clumps of cells into a human?

[PolyTech]

I personally would want to be in his shoes before calling the man stupid for his response to this incident.


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Not an argument. If anything, emotions cloud judgment and his opinion should be weighted less in the grand scheme of things.

Not intended to be an argument, USN. More of a personal life goal - empathy.

I'll note that the next time you bemoan "necks".

[ip_law-hokie]

I have mentioned I believe that I don't view abortion as a murder of a living person. I think the Roe court reached the correct decision. My empathy here lies with those on the planet, including the mother.

I respect your opinion.


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I don't follow. What's magical about the passing through the vagina which transforms clumps of cells into a human?

My own view on the morality of the situation depends on the viability of the fetus apart from the mother. I don't expect you to have the same opinion.


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[ip_law-hokie]

I personally would want to be in his shoes before calling the man stupid for his response to this incident.


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Not an argument. If anything, emotions cloud judgment and his opinion should be weighted less in the grand scheme of things.

Not intended to be an argument, USN. More of a personal life goal - empathy.

I'll note that the next time you bemoan "necks".

I encourage you to do just that. Thanks.

[USN_Hokie]

My own view on the morality of the situation depends on the viability of the fetus apart from the mother. I don't expect you to have the same opinion.


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So, if a person gets in an accident and needs to hospital equipment in order to live, you can kill them?

[HokieHam]

My own view on the morality of the situation depends on the viability of the fetus apart from the mother. I don't expect you to have the same opinion.


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So, if a person gets in an accident and needs to hospital equipment in order to live, you can kill them?

The logical fallacy with his train of thought does lead to this.......

[awesome guy]

Great. You should ask the millions of aborted babies what they think about having their skulls crushed before being sucked through a tube so IP can reduce crime rates.

I have mentioned I believe that I don't view abortion as a murder of a living person. I think the Roe court reached the correct decision. My empathy here lies with those on the planet, including the mother.

I respect your opinion.


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That's a shame. Are you glad your mom mistook you for a human being?

I am very lucky to have grown up in a two person family with the means to support me. Thanks for the opportunity to remind myself that.


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She mistook for a human instead of a parasite, tumor, or lump of cells right?

According to my understanding, the pregnancy was not unplanned.


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Planning is what determines if it's life or not, got it.

[ip_law-hokie]

My own view on the morality of the situation depends on the viability of the fetus apart from the mother. I don't expect you to have the same opinion.


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So, if a person gets in an accident and needs to hospital equipment in order to live, you can kill them?

The logical fallacy with his train of thought does lead to this.......

That's quite a stretch in my opinion, but perhaps this discussion would be best conducted in a thread about abortion instead of (another) thread about a mass-shooting.

[USN_Hokie]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/art ... c67519d311



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He's not very bright...

I personally would want to be in his shoes before calling the man stupid for his response to this incident.


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Scalise’s support for gun rights ‘fortified’ by Vegas shooting

https://nypost.com/2017/10/03/scalises- ... -shooting/

[Techmomof2]

http://www.wnd.com/2017/10/shooter-in-b ... ral-agent/

More than 48 hours after the worst mass shooting in modern U.S. history, police still don’t have a motive for the horrific crime.

But a more complete profile of the killer is beginning to emerge.

Stephen Paddock, the Las Vegas shooter who killed 59 people at a country music festival Sunday night, worked over a 10-year period as a letter carrier for the U.S. Postal Service, an IRS agent and a defense auditor.


That was followed by a six-year stint with the Internal Revenue Service until 1984. And then he worked as a defense auditor for about 18 months.

The latest revelation suggests the U.S. government should have an extensive file on its former employee, Stephen Paddock, who not only worked directly for the government for nearly a decade but then worked another year-and-a-half for federal weapons contractor Lockheed Martin.

With his institutional knowledge of how the federal bureaucracy works, Paddock was anything but the typical mass shooter. He would have been able to cover his tracks in the planning stages of his attack.

The Islamic State, or ISIS, has doubled down on its claim of responsibility for the attack, saying Paddock had converted to Islam in recent months and become a “soldier of the caliphate.”

[USN_Hokie]

Second interview with the brother is very weird:

https://www.cbsnews.com/videos/the-brot ... cond-time/

[USN_Hokie]

Second interview with the brother is very weird:

https://www.cbsnews.com/videos/the-brot ... cond-time/

I don't gamble at all, but can someone with some familiarity tell me if the brother's story of the killer professionally playing electronic poker for 20yrs and making himself a millionaire with free rooms and comps everywhere passes the smell test?

I thought the casinos were smart enough to only hand out free stuff to the idiots who blew all their money - and actually kicked out the folks who were good enough to game the system? And, isn't it impossible to count cards playing electronic poker?

[ip_law-hokie]

Second interview with the brother is very weird:

https://www.cbsnews.com/videos/the-brot ... cond-time/

I don't gamble at all, but can someone with some familiarity tell me if the brother's story of the killer professionally playing electronic poker for 20yrs and making himself a millionaire with free rooms and comps everywhere passes the smell test?

I thought the casinos were smart enough to only hand out free stuff to the idiots who blew all their money - and actually kicked out the folks who were good enough to game the system? And, isn't it impossible to count cards playing electronic poker?

It's delusional. If anybody who tells you that they are "good" at slot machines, craps, roulette, anything at a casino except poker, then they are delusional.

Particularly slot machines. How do you game a machine?


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[UpstateSCHokie]

Apparently he may have had another guest in his room. The plot thickens, and the more the authorities withhold information, the more rumors & speculation will occur...



https://www.infowars.com/receipt-shows- ... -shooting/

[USN_Hokie]

Apparently he may have had another guest in his room. The plot thickens, and the more the authorities withhold information, the more rumors & speculation will occur...



https://www.infowars.com/receipt-shows- ... -shooting/

The date on that receipt is the 27th. I would ass-u-me that is the Filipino girlfriend who flew home just before the attack.

[UpstateSCHokie]

Apparently he may have had another guest in his room. The plot thickens, and the more the authorities withhold information, the more rumors & speculation will occur...



https://www.infowars.com/receipt-shows- ... -shooting/

The date on that receipt is the 27th. I would ass-u-me that is the Filipino girlfriend who flew home just before the attack.

But according to this she had been in the Philippines since Sept. 22nd.

Authorities in the Philippines said that Danley, 62, had been in Manila since September 22, more than a week before the shooting.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... I-LAX.html

[USN_Hokie]

Apparently he may have had another guest in his room. The plot thickens, and the more the authorities withhold information, the more rumors & speculation will occur...



https://www.infowars.com/receipt-shows- ... -shooting/

The date on that receipt is the 27th. I would ass-u-me that is the Filipino girlfriend who flew home just before the attack.

But according to this she had been in the Philippines since Sept. 22nd.

Authorities in the Philippines said that Danley, 62, had been in Manila since September 22, more than a week before the shooting.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... I-LAX.html

OK, that's interesting.

That order is definitely for 2 people.

[UpstateSCHokie]

Apparently he may have had another guest in his room. The plot thickens, and the more the authorities withhold information, the more rumors & speculation will occur...



https://www.infowars.com/receipt-shows- ... -shooting/

The date on that receipt is the 27th. I would ass-u-me that is the Filipino girlfriend who flew home just before the attack.

But according to this she had been in the Philippines since Sept. 22nd.

Authorities in the Philippines said that Danley, 62, had been in Manila since September 22, more than a week before the shooting.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... I-LAX.html

OK, that's interesting.

That order is definitely for 2 people.

Yep, top left of the image on the left clearly says "guests: 2"

[cwtcr hokie]

Second interview with the brother is very weird:

https://www.cbsnews.com/videos/the-brot ... cond-time/

I don't see anything wierd about it, the guy prob has not slept, and meanwhile he is watching all this info come out and theories and the person he know is not that person, that has to be rough. But again, not sure what I would say in an interview if my brother had just shot 500+ people, no idea how I could handle that.

[awesome guy]

Second interview with the brother is very weird:

https://www.cbsnews.com/videos/the-brot ... cond-time/

I don't gamble at all, but can someone with some familiarity tell me if the brother's story of the killer professionally playing electronic poker for 20yrs and making himself a millionaire with free rooms and comps everywhere passes the smell test?

I thought the casinos were smart enough to only hand out free stuff to the idiots who blew all their money - and actually kicked out the folks who were good enough to game the system? And, isn't it impossible to count cards playing electronic poker?

I think something else is going on. Doesn't pass the smell test. The brother kept talking about how generous he was. I'm reading that as he got millions last week before the shooting and isn't giving it up.

[cwtcr hokie]

Apparently he may have had another guest in his room. The plot thickens, and the more the authorities withhold information, the more rumors & speculation will occur...



https://www.infowars.com/receipt-shows- ... -shooting/

The date on that receipt is the 27th. I would ass-u-me that is the Filipino girlfriend who flew home just before the attack.

But according to this she had been in the Philippines since Sept. 22nd.

Authorities in the Philippines said that Danley, 62, had been in Manila since September 22, more than a week before the shooting.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... I-LAX.html

OK, that's interesting.

That order is definitely for 2 people.

Yep, top left of the image on the left clearly says "guests: 2"

but was that the guess of the order taker based on what is being ordered, I assume this is room service so it is being called in. But the guy was into RE so it could have been anybody in the room but at that point there were no signs he was about to do what he did

[cwtcr hokie]

Second interview with the brother is very weird:

https://www.cbsnews.com/videos/the-brot ... cond-time/

I don't gamble at all, but can someone with some familiarity tell me if the brother's story of the killer professionally playing electronic poker for 20yrs and making himself a millionaire with free rooms and comps everywhere passes the smell test?

I thought the casinos were smart enough to only hand out free stuff to the idiots who blew all their money - and actually kicked out the folks who were good enough to game the system? And, isn't it impossible to count cards playing electronic poker?

I think something else is going on. Doesn't pass the smell test. The brother kept talking about how generous he was. I'm reading that as he got millions last week before the shooting and isn't giving it up.

He may have but why would he have to give it up? The money was not from illegal activities so the authorities have no rights to it. The victims may but not sure legally how that would work.

[awesome guy]

Second interview with the brother is very weird:

https://www.cbsnews.com/videos/the-brot ... cond-time/

I don't gamble at all, but can someone with some familiarity tell me if the brother's story of the killer professionally playing electronic poker for 20yrs and making himself a millionaire with free rooms and comps everywhere passes the smell test?

I thought the casinos were smart enough to only hand out free stuff to the idiots who blew all their money - and actually kicked out the folks who were good enough to game the system? And, isn't it impossible to count cards playing electronic poker?

I think something else is going on. Doesn't pass the smell test. The brother kept talking about how generous he was. I'm reading that as he got millions last week before the shooting and isn't giving it up.

He may have but why would he have to give it up? The money was not from illegal activities so the authorities have no rights to it. The victims may but not sure legally how that would work.

I don't think we know how the money was created at this point. But I'm talking more about political pressure to give it to victims, from his stand point.

[USN_Hokie]

Second interview with the brother is very weird:

https://www.cbsnews.com/videos/the-brot ... cond-time/

I don't gamble at all, but can someone with some familiarity tell me if the brother's story of the killer professionally playing electronic poker for 20yrs and making himself a millionaire with free rooms and comps everywhere passes the smell test?

I thought the casinos were smart enough to only hand out free stuff to the idiots who blew all their money - and actually kicked out the folks who were good enough to game the system? And, isn't it impossible to count cards playing electronic poker?

I think something else is going on. Doesn't pass the smell test. The brother kept talking about how generous he was. I'm reading that as he got millions last week before the shooting and isn't giving it up.

He may have but why would he have to give it up? The money was not from illegal activities so the authorities have no rights to it. The victims may but not sure legally how that would work.

I don't think we know how the money was created at this point. But I'm talking more about political pressure to give it to victims, from his stand point.

Yep. The position that the money isn't ill got is assumed solely on the testimony of the brother saying that he won it over 20yrs playing video poker. That seems...odd.

[cwtcr hokie]

Second interview with the brother is very weird:

https://www.cbsnews.com/videos/the-brot ... cond-time/

I don't gamble at all, but can someone with some familiarity tell me if the brother's story of the killer professionally playing electronic poker for 20yrs and making himself a millionaire with free rooms and comps everywhere passes the smell test?

I thought the casinos were smart enough to only hand out free stuff to the idiots who blew all their money - and actually kicked out the folks who were good enough to game the system? And, isn't it impossible to count cards playing electronic poker?

I think something else is going on. Doesn't pass the smell test. The brother kept talking about how generous he was. I'm reading that as he got millions last week before the shooting and isn't giving it up.

He may have but why would he have to give it up? The money was not from illegal activities so the authorities have no rights to it. The victims may but not sure legally how that would work.

I don't think we know how the money was created at this point. But I'm talking more about political pressure to give it to victims, from his stand point.

We do though, the guy has a history. A work history and RE deals are all recorded, the casinos would have paperwork on his winnings also. He was just a normal guy that literally went postal not sure we will ever know why. The politicians can't demand his estate gives up any money. I am sure some will sue but not sure how that works when the payer is dead, my guess is they are SOL