Astros player makes racist gesture

[WestEndHokie39]

I don't know the motivation, do you?

It may have been a dumb gesture stereotyping an ethnic group.

OMG, kill him!

Mole hill.

Racism?

To label that racism is hyperbole. Like micro aggression.

Everything racial isn't racist. It was insensitive.

My guess is that everyone will survive this horrible ordeal and be able to recover and lead fairly normal lives.

You are correct. An organization may impose discipline, fines, suspension on it's members for actions it considers in poor taste or that reflect badly on the organization. The NFL, MLB, mcdonalds or the US military if fully within their rights to do that.

The question is what is the punishment. You think that not levying a severe penalty is a tacit endorsement of racism. That is silly. I suggest that making mountains out of mole hills merely obfuscates what real racism is and puts that silly gesture on the same plane as burning a cross in someone's yard and throwing a brick through the window.

It's not.

A fine in the locker room kangaroo court of about $15 and the team saying, "What, are you nuts?" Is sufficient.

Mole hill.

FTR, I don’t necessarily think a lack of punishment under certain circumstances would be an enabling of racism, but that’s simply how it would be perceived by the public.

Overt racism caught on national television during the World Series is more than a reasonable circumstance to discipline a player.


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You seriously believe that a squinty eyes gesture at a Japanese player isn’t racist? Okie dokie then.


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You find 5 games (next year, and appealable) and required sensitivity training to be too severe?


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Any reasonable person would realize how it’s excessive.

The five games will cost him $400k, and a portion of that will be donated to a racist organization (some sort of group that pushes diversity).

“Sensitivity training” reeks of Orwell, soviet style- a repugnant example of groupthink.

[ip_law-hokie]

I don't know the motivation, do you?

It may have been a dumb gesture stereotyping an ethnic group.

OMG, kill him!

Mole hill.

Racism?

To label that racism is hyperbole. Like micro aggression.

Everything racial isn't racist. It was insensitive.

My guess is that everyone will survive this horrible ordeal and be able to recover and lead fairly normal lives.

FTR, I don’t necessarily think a lack of punishment under certain circumstances would be an enabling of racism, but that’s simply how it would be perceived by the public.

Overt racism caught on national television during the World Series is more than a reasonable circumstance to discipline a player.


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You seriously believe that a squinty eyes gesture at a Japanese player isn’t racist? Okie dokie then.


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You find 5 games (next year, and appealable) and required sensitivity training to be too severe?


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Any reasonable person would realize how it’s excessive.

The five games will cost him $400k, and a portion of that will be donated to a racist organization (some sort of group that pushes diversity).

“Sensitivity training” reeks of Orwell, soviet style- a repugnant example of groupthink.

Damn. I did the math and came to 300K. I thought you were way off. He’s under contract for 47.5 M for 5 Seasons. Depending on how the contract is structured you may even be right.

How about our Jets?




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[nolanvt]

It's amusing how the Unusuals think players can be fined for squinty eye gestures to insult a player, but not kneeling during the anthem to insult the nation.

If it’s the rule like it is in the NBA, go for it.


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What?

In the NBA, you are required to stand for the national anthem by league rule. #TheMoreYouKnow


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[awesome guy]

It's amusing how the Unusuals think players can be fined for squinty eye gestures to insult a player, but not kneeling during the anthem to insult the nation.

If it’s the rule like it is in the NBA, go for it.


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What?

In the NBA, you are required to stand for the national anthem by league rule. #TheMoreYouKnow


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Do you realize the Astros are a baseball team? Anyway, it's amusing how you weave back and forth from legal to moral without understanding either.

[nolanvt]

It's amusing how the Unusuals think players can be fined for squinty eye gestures to insult a player, but not kneeling during the anthem to insult the nation.

If it’s the rule like it is in the NBA, go for it.


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What?

In the NBA, you are required to stand for the national anthem by league rule. #TheMoreYouKnow


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Do you realize the Astros are a baseball team? Anyway, it's amusing how you weave back and forth from legal to moral without understanding either.

Are you drunk?


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[awesome guy]

It's amusing how the Unusuals think players can be fined for squinty eye gestures to insult a player, but not kneeling during the anthem to insult the nation.

If it’s the rule like it is in the NBA, go for it.


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What?

In the NBA, you are required to stand for the national anthem by league rule. #TheMoreYouKnow


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Do you realize the Astros are a baseball team? Anyway, it's amusing how you weave back and forth from legal to moral without understanding either.

Are you drunk?


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It would make talking with you easier. Don't ever change.

[nolanvt]

If it’s the rule like it is in the NBA, go for it.


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What?

In the NBA, you are required to stand for the national anthem by league rule. #TheMoreYouKnow


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Do you realize the Astros are a baseball team? Anyway, it's amusing how you weave back and forth from legal to moral without understanding either.

Are you drunk?


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It would make talking with you easier. Don't ever change.

Hope you get the help you need.


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[awesome guy]

What?

In the NBA, you are required to stand for the national anthem by league rule. #TheMoreYouKnow


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Do you realize the Astros are a baseball team? Anyway, it's amusing how you weave back and forth from legal to moral without understanding either.

Are you drunk?


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It would make talking with you easier. Don't ever change.

Hope you get the help you need.


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Uh huh. I hope you visit the Wizard for a brain.

[WestEndHokie39]

You are correct. An organization may impose discipline, fines, suspension on it's members for actions it considers in poor taste or that reflect badly on the organization. The NFL, MLB, mcdonalds or the US military if fully within their rights to do that.

The question is what is the punishment. You think that not levying a severe penalty is a tacit endorsement of racism. That is silly. I suggest that making mountains out of mole hills merely obfuscates what real racism is and puts that silly gesture on the same plane as burning a cross in someone's yard and throwing a brick through the window.

It's not.

A fine in the locker room kangaroo court of about $15 and the team saying, "What, are you nuts?" Is sufficient.

Mole hill.

FTR, I don’t necessarily think a lack of punishment under certain circumstances would be an enabling of racism, but that’s simply how it would be perceived by the public.

Overt racism caught on national television during the World Series is more than a reasonable circumstance to discipline a player.


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[/quote]

You seriously believe that a squinty eyes gesture at a Japanese player isn’t racist? Okie dokie then.


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You find 5 games (next year, and appealable) and required sensitivity training to be too severe?


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Any reasonable person would realize how it’s excessive.

The five games will cost him $400k, and a portion of that will be donated to a racist organization (some sort of group that pushes diversity).

“Sensitivity training” reeks of Orwell, soviet style- a repugnant example of groupthink.[/quote]

Damn. I did the math and came to 300K. I thought you were way off. He’s under contract for 47.5 M for 5 Seasons. Depending on how the contract is structured you may even be right.

How about our Jets?




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I don’t know what to think about our Jets. At the beginning of the season, I wanted them to go 0-16 to get a franchise quarterback. Now I’m not so sure there is a franchise qb in next year’s draft.

I fear they will go 8-8 or so, and not get any better on offense