The Manafort Indictment: Not Much There, & a Boon for Trump

[UpstateSCHokie]

Andrew McCarthy knocks it out of the park with this summary of this giant nothing burger of an "indictment." Mueller & his army of high paid lawyers may get Manafort on something, but they are not going to convict him on all these charges. My guess is they are hoping they can get him to plead guilty to some lesser charge so they can claim a scalp.

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The Manafort Indictment: Not Much There, and a Boon for Trump
by Andrew C. McCarthy October 30, 2017 2:20

Do not be fooled by the “Conspiracy against the United States” heading. The Paul Manafort indictment is much ado about nothing . . . except as a vehicle to squeeze Manafort, which is special counsel Robert Mueller’s objective — as we have been arguing for three months (see here, here, and here).

Do not be fooled by the “Conspiracy against the United States” heading on Count One (page 23 of the indictment). This case has nothing to do with what Democrats and the media call “the attack on our democracy” (i.e., the Kremlin’s meddling in the 2016 election, supposedly in “collusion” with the Trump campaign). Essentially, Manafort and his associate, Richard W. Gates, are charged with (a) conspiring to conceal from the U.S. government about $75 million they made as unregistered foreign agents for Ukraine, years before the 2016 election (mainly, from 2006 through 2014), and (b) a money-laundering conspiracy.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 ... -collusion

[HokieHam]

Yeah. That was a good read.

[HokieJoe]

Prosecutors often pad their numbers with various indictments. It justifies budgeting for their endeavors; and it maximizes the probability that something will stick. I think they'll try to squeeze him for more info on Trump. I'm all for getting all of this dirty laundry aired for EVERYONE (including the Dalaibama administration and Clinton Crime syndicate). However, Mueller isn't the guy for that job. He has too many conflicts of interest.

[ip_law-hokie]

Prosecutors often pad their numbers with various indictments. It justifies budgeting for their endeavors; and it maximizes the probability that something will stick. I think they'll try to squeeze him for more info on Trump. I'm all for getting all of this dirty laundry aired for EVERYONE (including the Dalaibama administration and Clinton Crime syndicate). However, Mueller isn't the guy for that job. He has too many conflicts of interest.

I’m OK with letting it play out. This is just getting started.


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[awesome guy]

I'm thinking the Clintons walk in this. If Mueller was going to prosecute them then he'd be dead already.

[RiverguyVT]

I'm thinking the Clintons walk in this. If Mueller was going to prosecute them then he'd be dead already.

The only hope is for him to resign and a new one appointed...

[awesome guy]

I'm thinking the Clintons walk in this. If Mueller was going to prosecute them then he'd be dead already.

The only hope is for him to resign and a new one appointed...

I think it's out of steam unless justice becomes the goal. And then we're back to people putting their lives on the line by crossing Hillary. Justice or suicide by 3 shots with a rifle to the back of the head, Mueller would have great faith and a willingness to make the ultimate sacrifice to pursue justice.

[CFB Apologist]

Prosecutors often pad their numbers with various indictments. It justifies budgeting for their endeavors; and it maximizes the probability that something will stick. I think they'll try to squeeze him for more info on Trump. I'm all for getting all of this dirty laundry aired for EVERYONE (including the Dalaibama administration and Clinton Crime syndicate). However, Mueller isn't the guy for that job. He has too many conflicts of interest.

I’m OK with letting it play out. This is just getting started.


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A little disappointing actually. Maddow and Olbermann told me Donald Trump was going to be arrested on Monday- Led out of the oval office in handcuffs. They were sure of it- RUSSIA and all..... damn what a let down.

[ip_law-hokie]

Prosecutors often pad their numbers with various indictments. It justifies budgeting for their endeavors; and it maximizes the probability that something will stick. I think they'll try to squeeze him for more info on Trump. I'm all for getting all of this dirty laundry aired for EVERYONE (including the Dalaibama administration and Clinton Crime syndicate). However, Mueller isn't the guy for that job. He has too many conflicts of interest.

I’m OK with letting it play out. This is just getting started.


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A little disappointing actually. Maddow and Olbermann told me Donald Trump was going to be arrested on Monday- Led out of the oval office in handcuffs. They were sure of it- RUSSIA and all..... damn what a let down.

Mueller is a professional, doing his job. He's going about it the right way. He will do as good a job as anyone finding out how high the collusion went. If Trump allows this to play out, and not lose his sh!t, I would not be surprised to see him vindicated. I question whether he has that discipline.

I doubt that Maddow or Olbermann have the context of knowledge to be of much use.

[cwtcr hokie]

Andrew McCarthy knocks it out of the park with this summary of this giant nothing burger of an "indictment." Mueller & his army of high paid lawyers may get Manafort on something, but they are not going to convict him on all these charges. My guess is they are hoping they can get him to plead guilty to some lesser charge so they can claim a scalp.

============================

The Manafort Indictment: Not Much There, and a Boon for Trump
by Andrew C. McCarthy October 30, 2017 2:20

Do not be fooled by the “Conspiracy against the United States” heading. The Paul Manafort indictment is much ado about nothing . . . except as a vehicle to squeeze Manafort, which is special counsel Robert Mueller’s objective — as we have been arguing for three months (see here, here, and here).

Do not be fooled by the “Conspiracy against the United States” heading on Count One (page 23 of the indictment). This case has nothing to do with what Democrats and the media call “the attack on our democracy” (i.e., the Kremlin’s meddling in the 2016 election, supposedly in “collusion” with the Trump campaign). Essentially, Manafort and his associate, Richard W. Gates, are charged with (a) conspiring to conceal from the U.S. government about $75 million they made as unregistered foreign agents for Ukraine, years before the 2016 election (mainly, from 2006 through 2014), and (b) a money-laundering conspiracy.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 ... -collusion

Yep, when the usual folks here were jumping for joy that they finally got Trump I kept saying you may want to wait to see how it turns out. But it was hilarious to watch the MSM go crazy last night that they had Trump on the ropes. The Manafort/Gates thing is from well before Trump was even a candidate and involves tax evasion and foreign money. On the face it looks awful but as the article says this will probably boil down to registration or procedural issues. Who actually owned the accounts in question? How is money earned fully overseas taxed in the USA? How were the companies set up? Lots of questions.

For the other guy that pled guilty (the other shoe to drop and nail Trump), you got a NON PAID guy involved in the campaign that had contact with people that knew dirt on Thunder thighs, his crime is he lied to the FBI. So where is the dirt? the supposed meetings were never had. Meanwhile Thunder thighs was paying Fusion GPS to make up stuff on Trump and get it as widely circulated as possible. Can't wait til the congress nails Thunder thighs for her actual crimes

[cwtcr hokie]

Prosecutors often pad their numbers with various indictments. It justifies budgeting for their endeavors; and it maximizes the probability that something will stick. I think they'll try to squeeze him for more info on Trump. I'm all for getting all of this dirty laundry aired for EVERYONE (including the Dalaibama administration and Clinton Crime syndicate). However, Mueller isn't the guy for that job. He has too many conflicts of interest.

I’m OK with letting it play out. This is just getting started.


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A little disappointing actually. Maddow and Olbermann told me Donald Trump was going to be arrested on Monday- Led out of the oval office in handcuffs. They were sure of it- RUSSIA and all..... damn what a let down.

Mueller is a professional, doing his job. He's going about it the right way. He will do as good a job as anyone finding out how high the collusion went. If Trump allows this to play out, and not lose his sh!t, I would not be surprised to see him vindicated. I question whether he has that discipline.

I doubt that Maddow or Olbermann have the context of knowledge to be of much use.

wow, so wrong, a PROFESSIONAL resigns when it comes to light all of his conflict of interest on these issues. A professional does not hire a group that has so much bias going into the process. And lastly a professional stops wasting taxpayer money when six months ago everyone knew that the Russia collusion bull crap was just that. The bitch lost, get over it

[133743Hokie]

Prosecutors often pad their numbers with various indictments. It justifies budgeting for their endeavors; and it maximizes the probability that something will stick. I think they'll try to squeeze him for more info on Trump. I'm all for getting all of this dirty laundry aired for EVERYONE (including the Dalaibama administration and Clinton Crime syndicate). However, Mueller isn't the guy for that job. He has too many conflicts of interest.

I’m OK with letting it play out. This is just getting started.


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A little disappointing actually. Maddow and Olbermann told me Donald Trump was going to be arrested on Monday- Led out of the oval office in handcuffs. They were sure of it- RUSSIA and all..... damn what a let down.

Mueller is a professional, doing his job. He's going about it the right way. He will do as good a job as anyone finding out how high the collusion went. If Trump allows this to play out, and not lose his sh!t, I would not be surprised to see him vindicated. I question whether he has that discipline.

I doubt that Maddow or Olbermann have the context of knowledge to be of much use.

We'll know his professionalism when a) he investigates podesta, fusion,uranium one, Hillary and the DNC, and b) when he recuses himself for being a witness/participant in uranium one

[CFB Apologist]

Prosecutors often pad their numbers with various indictments. It justifies budgeting for their endeavors; and it maximizes the probability that something will stick. I think they'll try to squeeze him for more info on Trump. I'm all for getting all of this dirty laundry aired for EVERYONE (including the Dalaibama administration and Clinton Crime syndicate). However, Mueller isn't the guy for that job. He has too many conflicts of interest.

I’m OK with letting it play out. This is just getting started.


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A little disappointing actually. Maddow and Olbermann told me Donald Trump was going to be arrested on Monday- Led out of the oval office in handcuffs. They were sure of it- RUSSIA and all..... damn what a let down.

Mueller is a professional, doing his job. He's going about it the right way. He will do as good a job as anyone finding out how high the collusion went. If Trump allows this to play out, and not lose his sh!t, I would not be surprised to see him vindicated. I question whether he has that discipline.

I doubt that Maddow or Olbermann have the context of knowledge to be of much use.

I'm waiting for an adult to enter the room and use logic.. and no, I'm not holding my breath.. at all..

1. Hillary Clinton garnered more votes in this election. Dems have told us this in plain words and via sophomoric meme a million times. She WON.. BUT the Russians "fixed" it by making sure Trump "won".. hmmm weird
2. If Vladimir Putin, riding a black bear down PA Avenue with Mark Zuckerman pulling a cart with 200 billion dollars worth of "facebook ads" is fixing an election, wouldn't you have to have PROOF that people vote solely by what they see on facebook? Good luck proving anything close to that. Remember 99% of black people voted for Barack Obama, but they didn't do it because of his skin color, as there is no way to PROVE what is in the mind of the voter.
3. Foreign "interests/politics" have been part of American elections forever
4. Wake me, and others with common sense- when Mueller finds evidence/indicts state officials that worked with Russian officials to rig polling machines, intimidate people to vote a certain way, miscount votes on purpose, etc. THAT is the only way to FIX an election that was won on electoral college count vs. popular vote. The ONLY way to fix that is to tamper with the actual votes/machines/state results- Like PA did for Obama. If Meuller starts indicting state election officials, I'm listening to this Russian collusion bullshit

[HokieJoe]

Prosecutors often pad their numbers with various indictments. It justifies budgeting for their endeavors; and it maximizes the probability that something will stick. I think they'll try to squeeze him for more info on Trump. I'm all for getting all of this dirty laundry aired for EVERYONE (including the Dalaibama administration and Clinton Crime syndicate). However, Mueller isn't the guy for that job. He has too many conflicts of interest.

I’m OK with letting it play out. This is just getting started.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

A little disappointing actually. Maddow and Olbermann told me Donald Trump was going to be arrested on Monday- Led out of the oval office in handcuffs. They were sure of it- RUSSIA and all..... damn what a let down.

Mueller is a professional, doing his job. He's going about it the right way. He will do as good a job as anyone finding out how high the collusion went. If Trump allows this to play out, and not lose his sh!t, I would not be surprised to see him vindicated. I question whether he has that discipline.

I doubt that Maddow or Olbermann have the context of knowledge to be of much use.

We'll know his professionalism when a) he investigates podesta, fusion,uranium one, Hillary and the DNC, and b) when he recuses himself for being a witness/participant in uranium one

Yep. This smells more like a case for the IRS than Mueller.