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Papa Johns pulls NFL ads citing NFL success.

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:44 pm
by USN_Hokie

Re: Papa Johns pulls NFL ads citing NFL success.

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:40 pm
by HokieJoe
All is well in the NFL!

Re: Papa Johns pulls NFL ads citing NFL success.

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:44 pm
by nolanvt
Apparently, no ads were pulled. Just took out the “Official Sponsor” line from those ads.


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Re: Papa Johns pulls NFL ads citing NFL success.

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:29 am
by 133743Hokie
nolanvt wrote:Apparently, no ads were pulled. Just took out the “Official Sponsor” line from those ads.


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Do you think they paid the NFL for that official sponsor title (and elimination of competitors advertising? You think they are still going to pay the NFL for that?

Re: Papa Johns pulls NFL ads citing NFL success.

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:35 am
by nolanvt
133743Hokie wrote:
nolanvt wrote:Apparently, no ads were pulled. Just took out the “Official Sponsor” line from those ads.


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Do you think they paid the NFL for that official sponsor title (and elimination of competitors advertising? You think they are still going to pay the NFL for that?
I’m sure they did, but no ads were pulled. If they’re a well-run business, they’ll adapt and not be so reliant on the NFL.


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Re: Papa Johns pulls NFL ads citing NFL success.

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:40 am
by ip_law-hokie
133743Hokie wrote:
nolanvt wrote:Apparently, no ads were pulled. Just took out the “Official Sponsor” line from those ads.


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Do you think they paid the NFL for that official sponsor title (and elimination of competitors advertising? You think they are still going to pay the NFL for that?
The article was unclear IMO, but I think they removed the “Official” tag - which they probably paid for. In return, the NFL gave them additional add time.

As a Dominos shareholder and customer, I find that their expected problems are due more to shitty pizza.




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Re: Papa Johns pulls NFL ads citing NFL success.

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 4:08 am
by HokieHam
ip_law-hokie wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:
nolanvt wrote:Apparently, no ads were pulled. Just took out the “Official Sponsor” line from those ads.


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Do you think they paid the NFL for that official sponsor title (and elimination of competitors advertising? You think they are still going to pay the NFL for that?
The article was unclear IMO, but I think they removed the “Official” tag - which they probably paid for. In return, the NFL gave them additional add time.

As a Dominos shareholder and customer, I find that their expected problems are due more to shitty pizza.




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Dominos, Papa Johns, Little Caesar’s......all crap pizza.

Re: Papa Johns pulls NFL ads citing NFL success.

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 8:43 am
by USN_Hokie
ip_law-hokie wrote:[
As a Dominos shareholder and customer, I find that their expected problems are due more to shitty pizza.
You live in NYC and get your pizza from Dominos?

"You can take the 'neck out of the backwoods...."

Re: Papa Johns pulls NFL ads citing NFL success.

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 11:38 am
by awesome guy
USN_Hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:[
As a Dominos shareholder and customer, I find that their expected problems are due more to shitty pizza.
You live in NYC and get your pizza from Dominos?

"You can take the 'neck out of the backwoods...."
He's got ya here IP. I'd be ashamed, with all of those great money laundering operations on every corner to pick from, Dominoes is what a neck would choose.

Re: Papa Johns pulls NFL ads citing NFL success.

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 11:42 am
by 133743Hokie
nolanvt wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:
nolanvt wrote:Apparently, no ads were pulled. Just took out the “Official Sponsor” line from those ads.


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Do you think they paid the NFL for that official sponsor title (and elimination of competitors advertising? You think they are still going to pay the NFL for that?
I’m sure they did, but no ads were pulled. If they’re a well-run business, they’ll adapt and not be so reliant on the NFL.


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So which is it? The NFL is this fantastic money machine, humming along, with no problems and any business should want to ride their coattails? Or Papa Johns shouldn't be so reliant on a business like the NFL, one that could negatively impact their revenue? Think hard before you answer and then speak clearly -- we want to make sure we understand you as you talk out of both sides of you're mouth.

Re: Papa Johns pulls NFL ads citing NFL success.

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 11:43 am
by 133743Hokie
ip_law-hokie wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:
nolanvt wrote:Apparently, no ads were pulled. Just took out the “Official Sponsor” line from those ads.


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Do you think they paid the NFL for that official sponsor title (and elimination of competitors advertising? You think they are still going to pay the NFL for that?
The article was unclear IMO, but I think they removed the “Official” tag - which they probably paid for. In return, the NFL gave them additional add time.

As a Dominos shareholder and customer, I find that their expected problems are due more to shitty pizza.




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Are you so afraid to be on the streets of NYC at night that you have to order in from Dominos?

Re: Papa Johns pulls NFL ads citing NFL success.

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:58 pm
by ip_law-hokie
awesome guy wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:[
As a Dominos shareholder and customer, I find that their expected problems are due more to shitty pizza.
You live in NYC and get your pizza from Dominos?

"You can take the 'neck out of the backwoods...."
He's got ya here IP. I'd be ashamed, with all of those great money laundering operations on every corner to pick from, Dominoes is what a neck would choose.
Got it.

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Re: Papa Johns pulls NFL ads citing NFL success.

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 1:00 pm
by awesome guy
ip_law-hokie wrote:
awesome guy wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:[
As a Dominos shareholder and customer, I find that their expected problems are due more to shitty pizza.
You live in NYC and get your pizza from Dominos?

"You can take the 'neck out of the backwoods...."
He's got ya here IP. I'd be ashamed, with all of those great money laundering operations on every corner to pick from, Dominoes is what a neck would choose.
Got it.

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We're obviously focused on the consumption aspect, not investment.

Re: Papa Johns pulls NFL ads citing NFL success.

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 1:03 pm
by USN_Hokie
ip_law-hokie wrote: Image
1. No arguments that dominoes is popular with people whose houses have wheels or are paid for by the government.

2. You like to live life dangerously? Charge your phone!

Re: Papa Johns pulls NFL ads citing NFL success.

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 1:53 pm
by HokieHam
awesome guy wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
awesome guy wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:[
As a Dominos shareholder and customer, I find that their expected problems are due more to shitty pizza.
You live in NYC and get your pizza from Dominos?

"You can take the 'neck out of the backwoods...."
He's got ya here IP. I'd be ashamed, with all of those great money laundering operations on every corner to pick from, Dominoes is what a neck would choose.
Got it.

Image




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We're obviously focused on the consumption aspect, not investment.
Obviously. I have to drive 20minutes to get good pizza in CO. My son wanted to order Little Caesar’s one night and we had to have that talk......

Re: Papa Johns pulls NFL ads citing NFL success.

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 2:32 pm
by Major Kong
Here in 'neck Marion, Domino's shut down years ago...no business.

We do have a Pizza Hut and Little Creaser's though...the best place is Pizza Perfect owned by a nice Greek Couple.

Re: Papa Johns pulls NFL ads citing NFL success.

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 2:44 pm
by nolanvt
133743Hokie wrote:
nolanvt wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:
nolanvt wrote:Apparently, no ads were pulled. Just took out the “Official Sponsor” line from those ads.


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Do you think they paid the NFL for that official sponsor title (and elimination of competitors advertising? You think they are still going to pay the NFL for that?
I’m sure they did, but no ads were pulled. If they’re a well-run business, they’ll adapt and not be so reliant on the NFL.


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So which is it? The NFL is this fantastic money machine, humming along, with no problems and any business should want to ride their coattails? Or Papa Johns shouldn't be so reliant on a business like the NFL, one that could negatively impact their revenue? Think hard before you answer and then speak clearly -- we want to make sure we understand you as you talk out of both sides of you're mouth.
I only asserted that Papa Johns didn’t pull any ads, which is accurate.

If Papa Johns is losing money because of a NFL decline, then it needs to evolve. Of course, that statement relies on PJs assertion as fact. I haven’t nor care to analyze their performance to see why their numbers are actually down.


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Re: Papa Johns pulls NFL ads citing NFL success.

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 2:46 pm
by CFB Apologist
nolanvt wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:
nolanvt wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:
nolanvt wrote:Apparently, no ads were pulled. Just took out the “Official Sponsor” line from those ads.


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Do you think they paid the NFL for that official sponsor title (and elimination of competitors advertising? You think they are still going to pay the NFL for that?
I’m sure they did, but no ads were pulled. If they’re a well-run business, they’ll adapt and not be so reliant on the NFL.


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So which is it? The NFL is this fantastic money machine, humming along, with no problems and any business should want to ride their coattails? Or Papa Johns shouldn't be so reliant on a business like the NFL, one that could negatively impact their revenue? Think hard before you answer and then speak clearly -- we want to make sure we understand you as you talk out of both sides of you're mouth.
I only asserted that Papa Johns didn’t pull any ads, which is accurate.

If Papa Johns is losing money because of a NFL decline, then it needs to evolve. Of course, that statement relies on PJs assertion as fact. I haven’t nor care to analyze their performance to see why their numbers are actually down.


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What he is saying is simply..."NFL ratings are down and that's bad for sponsors"- he's right about that at face value. Basic economics. He did not make his point very clear, and tied ratings to kneeling- which some will deny until the day they die, thus the "controversy".

Re: Papa Johns pulls NFL ads citing NFL success.

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 4:21 pm
by HokieJoe
Major Kong wrote:Here in 'neck Marion, Domino's shut down years ago...no business.

We do have a Pizza Hut and Little Creaser's though...the best place is Pizza Perfect owned by a nice Greek Couple.

Ever tried Pizza Town in Lebanon? Good people, good food. Mom and Pop are originally from Naples.

Re: Papa Johns pulls NFL ads citing NFL success.

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 4:37 pm
by nolanvt
CFB Apologist wrote:
nolanvt wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:
nolanvt wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:
nolanvt wrote:Apparently, no ads were pulled. Just took out the “Official Sponsor” line from those ads.


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Do you think they paid the NFL for that official sponsor title (and elimination of competitors advertising? You think they are still going to pay the NFL for that?
I’m sure they did, but no ads were pulled. If they’re a well-run business, they’ll adapt and not be so reliant on the NFL.


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So which is it? The NFL is this fantastic money machine, humming along, with no problems and any business should want to ride their coattails? Or Papa Johns shouldn't be so reliant on a business like the NFL, one that could negatively impact their revenue? Think hard before you answer and then speak clearly -- we want to make sure we understand you as you talk out of both sides of you're mouth.
I only asserted that Papa Johns didn’t pull any ads, which is accurate.

If Papa Johns is losing money because of a NFL decline, then it needs to evolve. Of course, that statement relies on PJs assertion as fact. I haven’t nor care to analyze their performance to see why their numbers are actually down.


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What he is saying is simply..."NFL ratings are down and that's bad for sponsors"- he's right about that at face value. Basic economics. He did not make his point very clear, and tied ratings to kneeling- which some will deny until the day they die, thus the "controversy".
Then, you’re wanting me to defend an argument I’m not making.


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Re: Papa Johns pulls NFL ads citing NFL success.

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:27 pm
by 133743Hokie
nolanvt wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:
nolanvt wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:
nolanvt wrote:Apparently, no ads were pulled. Just took out the “Official Sponsor” line from those ads.


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Do you think they paid the NFL for that official sponsor title (and elimination of competitors advertising? You think they are still going to pay the NFL for that?
I’m sure they did, but no ads were pulled. If they’re a well-run business, they’ll adapt and not be so reliant on the NFL.


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So which is it? The NFL is this fantastic money machine, humming along, with no problems and any business should want to ride their coattails? Or Papa Johns shouldn't be so reliant on a business like the NFL, one that could negatively impact their revenue? Think hard before you answer and then speak clearly -- we want to make sure we understand you as you talk out of both sides of you're mouth.
I only asserted that Papa Johns didn’t pull any ads, which is accurate.

If Papa Johns is losing money because of a NFL decline, then it needs to evolve. Of course, that statement relies on PJs assertion as fact. I haven’t nor care to analyze their performance to see why their numbers are actually down.


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Not true. You intimated that Papa Johns needs to adapt and not be so reliant on the NFL. But if the NFL is such a money making machine with no problems, why shouldn't PJs ride their coattails?

Re: Papa Johns pulls NFL ads citing NFL success.

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:16 pm
by nolanvt
133743Hokie wrote:
nolanvt wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:
nolanvt wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:
nolanvt wrote:Apparently, no ads were pulled. Just took out the “Official Sponsor” line from those ads.


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Do you think they paid the NFL for that official sponsor title (and elimination of competitors advertising? You think they are still going to pay the NFL for that?
I’m sure they did, but no ads were pulled. If they’re a well-run business, they’ll adapt and not be so reliant on the NFL.


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So which is it? The NFL is this fantastic money machine, humming along, with no problems and any business should want to ride their coattails? Or Papa Johns shouldn't be so reliant on a business like the NFL, one that could negatively impact their revenue? Think hard before you answer and then speak clearly -- we want to make sure we understand you as you talk out of both sides of you're mouth.
I only asserted that Papa Johns didn’t pull any ads, which is accurate.

If Papa Johns is losing money because of a NFL decline, then it needs to evolve. Of course, that statement relies on PJs assertion as fact. I haven’t nor care to analyze their performance to see why their numbers are actually down.


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Not true. You intimated that Papa Johns needs to adapt and not be so reliant on the NFL. But if the NFL is such a money making machine with no problems, why shouldn't PJs ride their coattails?
If it’s the case his numbers are down because of the NFL, yes, but I don’t know why his numbers are actually down to the degree they are.


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Re: Papa Johns pulls NFL ads citing NFL success.

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:19 pm
by ip_law-hokie
nolanvt wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:
nolanvt wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:
nolanvt wrote:
133743Hokie wrote: Do you think they paid the NFL for that official sponsor title (and elimination of competitors advertising? You think they are still going to pay the NFL for that?
I’m sure they did, but no ads were pulled. If they’re a well-run business, they’ll adapt and not be so reliant on the NFL.


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So which is it? The NFL is this fantastic money machine, humming along, with no problems and any business should want to ride their coattails? Or Papa Johns shouldn't be so reliant on a business like the NFL, one that could negatively impact their revenue? Think hard before you answer and then speak clearly -- we want to make sure we understand you as you talk out of both sides of you're mouth.
I only asserted that Papa Johns didn’t pull any ads, which is accurate.

If Papa Johns is losing money because of a NFL decline, then it needs to evolve. Of course, that statement relies on PJs assertion as fact. I haven’t nor care to analyze their performance to see why their numbers are actually down.


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Not true. You intimated that Papa Johns needs to adapt and not be so reliant on the NFL. But if the NFL is such a money making machine with no problems, why shouldn't PJs ride their coattails?
If it’s the case his numbers are down because of the NFL, yes, but I don’t know why his numbers are actually down to the degree they are.


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I’m not sure that their numbers are even down. I think PJ stated that numbers will go down in the future due to the NFL. If I were a shareholder, I’d be suspicious.


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Re: Papa Johns pulls NFL ads citing NFL success.

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:25 pm
by TheH2
ip_law-hokie wrote: I’m not sure that their numbers are even down. I think PJ stated that numbers will go down in the future due to the NFL. If I were a shareholder, I’d be suspicious.


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Yeah, beat earnings estimates, lowered outlook. Maybe they have a lower outlook because they are no longer the official pizza sponsor of the week in, week out TV program that gets the most viewers.

Re: Papa Johns pulls NFL ads citing NFL success.

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:09 pm
by 133743Hokie
TheH2 wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote: I’m not sure that their numbers are even down. I think PJ stated that numbers will go down in the future due to the NFL. If I were a shareholder, I’d be suspicious.


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Yeah, beat earnings estimates, lowered outlook. Maybe they have a lower outlook because they are no longer the official pizza sponsor of the week in, week out TV program that gets the most viewers.
Thanks for chirping in. You think they lowered their outlook because they are dropping naming rights? C'mon, you aren't that stupid.