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 Post subject: Louisiana Justice
PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 12:30 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Louisiana Justice
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What's your take? How can law enforcement extract meaning from retard language? This looks like a case of playing a stupid game and winning a stupid prize. If he spoke English then he'd have no problem, though there is merit in the arguments to give him the benefit of doubt.

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 Post subject: Re: Louisiana Justice
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Ebonics and (allegedly) raping two juveniles will get after ya


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 Post subject: Re: Louisiana Justice
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I don't get it. Are the cops so dumb that they actually thought the perp wanted a canine attorney? And even if they did, how does that not count as invoking his right to counsel?

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 Post subject: Re: Louisiana Justice
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I don't get it. Are the cops so dumb that they actually thought the perp wanted a canine attorney? And even if they did, how does that not count as invoking his right to counsel?


I'm guessing perhaps that they he was read his rights and his scum defense attorney is using semantics to try to beat a double rape charge.. just a guess


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 Post subject: Re: Louisiana Justice
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I don't get it. Are the cops so dumb that they actually thought the perp wanted a canine attorney? And even if they did, how does that not count as invoking his right to counsel?


I'm guessing perhaps that they he was read his rights and his scum defense attorney is using semantics to try to beat a double rape charge.. just a guess


They don't dispute that he was read his rights.

At issue is that if you ask for a lawyer, all questioning has to stop until you are provided with a lawyer. If they question him after that point, then it's inadmissible. The request is on tape, so there's no question what the sequence of events was.

He asked for a lawyer dog (or lawyer, dawg). If that constitutes a request for a lawyer, then his confession is inadmissible ...

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 Post subject: Re: Louisiana Justice
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BigDave wrote:
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I don't get it. Are the cops so dumb that they actually thought the perp wanted a canine attorney? And even if they did, how does that not count as invoking his right to counsel?


I'm guessing perhaps that they he was read his rights and his scum defense attorney is using semantics to try to beat a double rape charge.. just a guess


They don't dispute that he was read his rights.

At issue is that if you ask for a lawyer, all questioning has to stop until you are provided with a lawyer. If they question him after that point, then it's inadmissible. The request is on tape, so there's no question what the sequence of events was.

He asked for a lawyer dog (or lawyer, dawg). If that constitutes a request for a lawyer, then his confession is inadmissible ...


Got it.. and yeah if they are really saying that "lawyer dawg" in this context is ambiguous, then charges should be dropped and he should be set free. No detective that advanced past 6th grade would mistake that for him asking for a talking law school grad dog, or a lawyer for his dog at home..nobody would think that.


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 Post subject: Re: Louisiana Justice
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I don't get it. Are the cops so dumb that they actually thought the perp wanted a canine attorney? And even if they did, how does that not count as invoking his right to counsel?


Louisiana.


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 Post subject: Re: Louisiana Justice
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http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/did_suspect_ask_for_a_lawyer_dog_or_a_lawyer_dawg_request_was_ambiguous_jus


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what did he say to the cops he wants suppressed? per the story he said he did not do it, I would want that in the court case if I was him. But if he confessed to the crimes then for sure we should let a guy confessing to committing acts on minors to be set free so he can continue to do that to other people.....great plan.

But if they throw it out just prove it another way, there is still a trial to do


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 Post subject: Re: Louisiana Justice
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 Post subject: Re: Louisiana Justice
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what did he say to the cops he wants suppressed? per the story he said he did not do it, I would want that in the court case if I was him. But if he confessed to the crimes then for sure we should let a guy confessing to committing acts on minors to be set free so he can continue to do that to other people.....great plan.

But if they throw it out just prove it another way, there is still a trial to do


I don’t know what he said. That’s not at all the point.




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 Post subject: Re: Louisiana Justice
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The State Supreme Court should have found for Mr. Demesme in my honest non legal opinion.

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 Post subject: Re: Louisiana Justice
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ip_law-hokie wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/did_suspect_ask_for_a_lawyer_dog_or_a_lawyer_dawg_request_was_ambiguous_jus


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what did he say to the cops he wants suppressed? per the story he said he did not do it, I would want that in the court case if I was him. But if he confessed to the crimes then for sure we should let a guy confessing to committing acts on minors to be set free so he can continue to do that to other people.....great plan.

But if they throw it out just prove it another way, there is still a trial to do


I don’t know what he said. That’s not at all the point.






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There is still a trial wether his admission is part of it or not but again, I really want a molester let go on that weak of a technicality, maybe you can let him babysit your kids


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cwtcr hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/did_suspect_ask_for_a_lawyer_dog_or_a_lawyer_dawg_request_was_ambiguous_jus


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what did he say to the cops he wants suppressed? per the story he said he did not do it, I would want that in the court case if I was him. But if he confessed to the crimes then for sure we should let a guy confessing to committing acts on minors to be set free so he can continue to do that to other people.....great plan.

But if they throw it out just prove it another way, there is still a trial to do


I don’t know what he said. That’s not at all the point.






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There is still a trial wether his admission is part of it or not but again, I really want a molester let go on that weak of a technicality, maybe you can let him babysit your kids


Got it.


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