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Virginia has finally become like Maryland... the only places that vote consistently Dem in Maryland are PG county and Baltimore city- the two largest population areas. Well, NOVA, tidewater and Richmond are deep blue now, so VA is done for the republicans- done. Simple numbers game. Virginia will vote democrat for the next 60 years.


disagree. VA is still a conservative state.

yesterday's vote was a pure anti-trump vote. it is not indicative of the makeup of the state.


Agree. This is the reaction following a presidential election. Dems had a good day across the board. Definitely not smart to make strong conclusions based on that result.
Trump lost VA. It's completely ignorant to ignore the massive influx of yankees and communists from abroad(of course you will do exactly that). They finally have the numbers to turn VA into another commie state.

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Virginia has finally become like Maryland... the only places that vote consistently Dem in Maryland are PG county and Baltimore city- the two largest population areas. Well, NOVA, tidewater and Richmond are deep blue now, so VA is done for the republicans- done. Simple numbers game. Virginia will vote democrat for the next 60 years.


disagree. VA is still a conservative state.

yesterday's vote was a pure anti-trump vote. it is not indicative of the makeup of the state.


LOL. Bullshit on both counts.

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Virginia has finally become like Maryland... the only places that vote consistently Dem in Maryland are PG county and Baltimore city- the two largest population areas. Well, NOVA, tidewater and Richmond are deep blue now, so VA is done for the republicans- done. Simple numbers game. Virginia will vote democrat for the next 60 years.


disagree. VA is still a conservative state.

yesterday's vote was a pure anti-trump vote. it is not indicative of the makeup of the state.
LOL, come on. The republicans distanced themselves from Trump and paid the price. Would have won/lost a lot less if they ran with Trump as that would have gotten his base out to counter the angry and imported cuckolds voting for the divisive party.


Bannon disagrees.

“He’s closed an enthusiasm gap by rallying around the Trump agenda,”
“And I think the big lesson for Tuesday is that, in Gillespie’s case, Trumpism without Trump can show the way forward. If that’s the case, Democrats better be very, very worried.”


What Trumpism did Gillespie deploy? He's another establishment type.

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Actually it does matter who wins.

We have one less GOP seat in congress because we have a democrat governor. When the courts overruled Virginia's congressional districts, the legislature redrew them to comply with the court's demands. But McAuliffe vetoed the bill. The end result was that the court redrew the districts itself and cut Randy Forbes out of his seat. We now have one of the worst and most leftist state senators as our congressman because of it.


But...Cuccinelli had a (historically accurate) lapel pin without exposed boobies on it! Also, he accurately interpreted the VA Constitution!


That whole pin story was so Idiotic. And I'll put this out there for anyone who considered that when casting their vote in that election: You're an ignoramus.

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Virginia has finally become like Maryland... the only places that vote consistently Dem in Maryland are PG county and Baltimore city- the two largest population areas. Well, NOVA, tidewater and Richmond are deep blue now, so VA is done for the republicans- done. Simple numbers game. Virginia will vote democrat for the next 60 years.


Its really one of the saddest stories in American politics. Virginia was once one of the most admired states for its business friendly climate and conservative principles. Now it seems its been flooded with Yankees, illegals, and liberal elites (especially in NoVa). Maryland's cancer has spread across the Potomac.

And here's the words of Virginia's very own clown Senator:

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“You have taken one of the reddest states in the country and you have turned it into not just a battleground, not just purple - you have turned it into a blue state,” Mr. Kaine told Democratic activists at Northam’s election night party.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... irginia-r/


That is what you call a tragedy.


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TheH2 wrote:
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HvilleHokie wrote:
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Virginia has finally become like Maryland... the only places that vote consistently Dem in Maryland are PG county and Baltimore city- the two largest population areas. Well, NOVA, tidewater and Richmond are deep blue now, so VA is done for the republicans- done. Simple numbers game. Virginia will vote democrat for the next 60 years.


disagree. VA is still a conservative state.

yesterday's vote was a pure anti-trump vote. it is not indicative of the makeup of the state.
LOL, come on. The republicans distanced themselves from Trump and paid the price. Would have won/lost a lot less if they ran with Trump as that would have gotten his base out to counter the angry and imported cuckolds voting for the divisive party.


Bannon disagrees.

“He’s closed an enthusiasm gap by rallying around the Trump agenda,”
“And I think the big lesson for Tuesday is that, in Gillespie’s case, Trumpism without Trump can show the way forward. If that’s the case, Democrats better be very, very worried.”


Umm...didn't Gillespie specifically reject Bannon's offer of help?

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USN_Hokie wrote:
TheH2 wrote:
awesome guy wrote:
HvilleHokie wrote:
CFB Apologist wrote:
Virginia has finally become like Maryland... the only places that vote consistently Dem in Maryland are PG county and Baltimore city- the two largest population areas. Well, NOVA, tidewater and Richmond are deep blue now, so VA is done for the republicans- done. Simple numbers game. Virginia will vote democrat for the next 60 years.


disagree. VA is still a conservative state.

yesterday's vote was a pure anti-trump vote. it is not indicative of the makeup of the state.
LOL, come on. The republicans distanced themselves from Trump and paid the price. Would have won/lost a lot less if they ran with Trump as that would have gotten his base out to counter the angry and imported cuckolds voting for the divisive party.


Bannon disagrees.

“He’s closed an enthusiasm gap by rallying around the Trump agenda,”
“And I think the big lesson for Tuesday is that, in Gillespie’s case, Trumpism without Trump can show the way forward. If that’s the case, Democrats better be very, very worried.”


Umm...didn't Gillespie specifically reject Bannon's offer of help?

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It doesn't matter if Northam wins. The General Assembly is going to stay firmly GOP for the next few decades.


Ummmm.....looks like the Dems now control the Va House of Delegates. Still feeling good about the future of Va?


You win some, you lose some. I voted straight Republican down the ticket with the exception of voting for Hyra rather than Gillespie. It turns out that if all 29,303 of us who voted for Hyra had, instead, voted for Gillespie, Northam would've only won by 203,171. In other words, my votes had zero effect whatsoever on any of the statewide races.

The House of Delegates swing surprises me. Makes me think the Democrats are going to be very excited to vote against The Party of Trump as long as he's in office. The next 3-7 years could be rough for Virginia Republicans, and that's not libertarians' fault. The Independents came out for the Democrats yesterday. And they will for next year's mid-terms too.

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The House of Delegates swing surprises me. Makes me think the Democrats are going to be very excited to vote against The Party of Trump as long as he's in office. The next 3-7 years could be rough for Virginia Republicans, and that's not libertarians' fault. The Independents came out for the Democrats yesterday. And they will for next year's mid-terms too.


1. Candidates backed by Trump have won several special elections in the last year. Gillespie is/was a milquetoast RINO who rejected Trump. Don't fall for the MSM tripe on this.

2. Not to hijack the thread, but Libertarianism is a complete failure at every level.

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It doesn't matter if Northam wins. The General Assembly is going to stay firmly GOP for the next few decades.


Ummmm.....looks like the Dems now control the Va House of Delegates. Still feeling good about the future of Va?


You win some, you lose some. I voted straight Republican down the ticket with the exception of voting for Hyra rather than Gillespie. It turns out that if all 29,303 of us who voted for Hyra had, instead, voted for Gillespie, Northam would've only won by 203,171. In other words, my votes had zero effect whatsoever on any of the statewide races.

The House of Delegates swing surprises me. Makes me think the Democrats are going to be very excited to vote against The Party of Trump as long as he's in office. The next 3-7 years could be rough for Virginia Republicans, and that's not libertarians' fault. The Independents came out for the Democrats yesterday. And they will for next year's mid-terms too.



Bingo. That's the big takeaway. As much as Trump and his supporters love making the snowflakes cry. The crying snowflakes turn out to vote and in large numbers.


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It doesn't matter if Northam wins. The General Assembly is going to stay firmly GOP for the next few decades.


Ummmm.....looks like the Dems now control the Va House of Delegates. Still feeling good about the future of Va?


You win some, you lose some. I voted straight Republican down the ticket with the exception of voting for Hyra rather than Gillespie. It turns out that if all 29,303 of us who voted for Hyra had, instead, voted for Gillespie, Northam would've only won by 203,171. In other words, my votes had zero effect whatsoever on any of the statewide races.

The House of Delegates swing surprises me. Makes me think the Democrats are going to be very excited to vote against The Party of Trump as long as he's in office. The next 3-7 years could be rough for Virginia Republicans, and that's not libertarians' fault. The Independents came out for the Democrats yesterday. And they will for next year's mid-terms too.


Trump supporters said they wanted to destroy the Republican Party. I think they will be able to look back at that statement in 2020 and consider it a job well done.


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It doesn't matter if Northam wins. The General Assembly is going to stay firmly GOP for the next few decades.


Ummmm.....looks like the Dems now control the Va House of Delegates. Still feeling good about the future of Va?


You win some, you lose some. I voted straight Republican down the ticket with the exception of voting for Hyra rather than Gillespie. It turns out that if all 29,303 of us who voted for Hyra had, instead, voted for Gillespie, Northam would've only won by 203,171. In other words, my votes had zero effect whatsoever on any of the statewide races.

The House of Delegates swing surprises me. Makes me think the Democrats are going to be very excited to vote against The Party of Trump as long as he's in office. The next 3-7 years could be rough for Virginia Republicans, and that's not libertarians' fault. The Independents came out for the Democrats yesterday. And they will for next year's mid-terms too.
Your vote for Hydra didn't change anything, this time. It'll be different once they have a heli-carrier or the space stone.

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The House of Delegates swing surprises me. Makes me think the Democrats are going to be very excited to vote against The Party of Trump as long as he's in office. The next 3-7 years could be rough for Virginia Republicans, and that's not libertarians' fault. The Independents came out for the Democrats yesterday. And they will for next year's mid-terms too.


1. Candidates backed by Trump have won several special elections in the last year. Gillespie is/was a milquetoast RINO who rejected Trump. Don't fall for the MSM tripe on this.

2. Not to hijack the thread, but Libertarianism is a complete failure at every level.
Yep. Trump wasn't on the Republican ticket.

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The House of Delegates swing surprises me. Makes me think the Democrats are going to be very excited to vote against The Party of Trump as long as he's in office. The next 3-7 years could be rough for Virginia Republicans, and that's not libertarians' fault. The Independents came out for the Democrats yesterday. And they will for next year's mid-terms too.


1. Candidates backed by Trump have won several special elections in the last year. Gillespie is/was a milquetoast RINO who rejected Trump. Don't fall for the MSM tripe on this.

2. Not to hijack the thread, but Libertarianism is a complete failure at every level.



Candidates who backed trump in special elections in very red states. The reason trump picked those people to be in his cabinet was because it was highly unlikely a democrat would replace them. No democrat is currently going to turn Alabama blue and at the state level, what's blue and red is also very different. There are elected democrats in the Virginia assembly that would be considered staunch republicans in a place like Massachusetts.


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So, I heard on the news that initial reports are Pubs stayed home. Anyone else hearing this? Is this the result of an establishment candidate making people saying screw it?

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The House of Delegates swing surprises me. Makes me think the Democrats are going to be very excited to vote against The Party of Trump as long as he's in office. The next 3-7 years could be rough for Virginia Republicans, and that's not libertarians' fault. The Independents came out for the Democrats yesterday. And they will for next year's mid-terms too.


1. Candidates backed by Trump have won several special elections in the last year. Gillespie is/was a milquetoast RINO who rejected Trump. Don't fall for the MSM tripe on this.

2. Not to hijack the thread, but Libertarianism is a complete failure at every level.



There are elected democrats in the Virginia assembly that would be considered staunch republicans in a place like Massachusetts.


This is very true. I consider myself a moderate, and I voted for Democrats locally in Texas and I vote for Republicans locally in NY. I’m glad to see moderates like Northam prevail.


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So, I heard on the news that initial reports are Pubs stayed home. Anyone else hearing this? Is this the result of an establishment candidate making people saying screw it?



It's pretty typical of off year elections that the party that won the last time stays home. Though I'd guess it's more because of a general dislike of Trump than a dislike of an establishment candidate. The approval/disapproval polls tell the tale.


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So, I heard on the news that initial reports are Pubs stayed home. Anyone else hearing this? Is this the result of an establishment candidate making people saying screw it?
I think that's part of it. The republicans need to embrace being a party of white people and work that against the liberal 3 ring circus.

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So, I heard on the news that initial reports are Pubs stayed home. Anyone else hearing this? Is this the result of an establishment candidate making people saying screw it?


I'm guessing oakton's opinion of Guillespe was pretty indicative of how conservatives felt about him. Let's face it, Guillespe has been a perennial loser and is a man wholly of the establishment. There was not much to get excited about for him. It's telling that the GOP Lt gov got more votes than he did.

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Virginia has finally become like Maryland... the only places that vote consistently Dem in Maryland are PG county and Baltimore city- the two largest population areas. Well, NOVA, tidewater and Richmond are deep blue now, so VA is done for the republicans- done. Simple numbers game. Virginia will vote democrat for the next 60 years.


disagree. VA is still a conservative state.

yesterday's vote was a pure anti-trump vote. it is not indicative of the makeup of the state.
LOL, come on. The republicans distanced themselves from Trump and paid the price. Would have won/lost a lot less if they ran with Trump as that would have gotten his base out to counter the angry and imported cuckolds voting for the divisive party.


Bannon disagrees.

“He’s closed an enthusiasm gap by rallying around the Trump agenda,”
“And I think the big lesson for Tuesday is that, in Gillespie’s case, Trumpism without Trump can show the way forward. If that’s the case, Democrats better be very, very worried.”


Umm...didn't Gillespie specifically reject Bannon's offer of help?

Don't confuse political theater with facts.


Just because he didn't want Bannon to speak doesn't mean he didn't do exactly what Bannon said he did, three days before the election. I'll take the masterminds (Bannon's) words over yours.


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USN_Hokie wrote:
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HvilleHokie wrote:
CFB Apologist wrote:
Virginia has finally become like Maryland... the only places that vote consistently Dem in Maryland are PG county and Baltimore city- the two largest population areas. Well, NOVA, tidewater and Richmond are deep blue now, so VA is done for the republicans- done. Simple numbers game. Virginia will vote democrat for the next 60 years.


disagree. VA is still a conservative state.

yesterday's vote was a pure anti-trump vote. it is not indicative of the makeup of the state.
LOL, come on. The republicans distanced themselves from Trump and paid the price. Would have won/lost a lot less if they ran with Trump as that would have gotten his base out to counter the angry and imported cuckolds voting for the divisive party.


Bannon disagrees.

“He’s closed an enthusiasm gap by rallying around the Trump agenda,”
“And I think the big lesson for Tuesday is that, in Gillespie’s case, Trumpism without Trump can show the way forward. If that’s the case, Democrats better be very, very worried.”


Umm...didn't Gillespie specifically reject Bannon's offer of help?

Don't confuse political theater with facts.
Don't confuse H2 with facts


Yeah, like Virginia's debt rating. Not to mention quotes from Bannon. Those aren't out of context so.....


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HvilleHokie wrote:
CFB Apologist wrote:
Virginia has finally become like Maryland... the only places that vote consistently Dem in Maryland are PG county and Baltimore city- the two largest population areas. Well, NOVA, tidewater and Richmond are deep blue now, so VA is done for the republicans- done. Simple numbers game. Virginia will vote democrat for the next 60 years.


disagree. VA is still a conservative state.

yesterday's vote was a pure anti-trump vote. it is not indicative of the makeup of the state.
LOL, come on. The republicans distanced themselves from Trump and paid the price. Would have won/lost a lot less if they ran with Trump as that would have gotten his base out to counter the angry and imported cuckolds voting for the divisive party.


Bannon disagrees.

“He’s closed an enthusiasm gap by rallying around the Trump agenda,”
“And I think the big lesson for Tuesday is that, in Gillespie’s case, Trumpism without Trump can show the way forward. If that’s the case, Democrats better be very, very worried.”


Umm...didn't Gillespie specifically reject Bannon's offer of help?

Don't confuse political theater with facts.


Just because he didn't want Bannon to speak doesn't mean he didn't do exactly what Bannon said he did, three days before the election. I'll take the masterminds (Bannon's) words over yours.
LOL, What? A little thought would help ya out here.

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[quote="CFB Apologist"]Virginia has finally become like Maryland... the only places that vote consistently Dem in Maryland are PG county and Baltimore city- the two largest population areas. Well, NOVA, tidewater and Richmond are deep blue now, so VA is done for the republicans- done. Simple numbers game. Virginia will vote democrat for the next 60 years.


disagree. VA is still a conservative state.

yesterday's vote was a pure anti-trump vote. it is not indicative of the makeup of the state.
LOL, come on. The republicans distanced themselves from Trump and paid the price. Would have won/lost a lot less if they ran with Trump as that would have gotten his base out to counter the angry and imported cuckolds voting for the divisive party.


Bannon disagrees.

“He’s closed an enthusiasm gap by rallying around the Trump agenda,”
“And I think the big lesson for Tuesday is that, in Gillespie’s case, Trumpism without Trump can show the way forward. If that’s the case, Democrats better be very, very worried.”


Umm...didn't Gillespie specifically reject Bannon's offer of help?

Don't confuse political theater with facts.
Don't confuse H2 with facts


Yeah, like Virginia's debt rating. Not to mention quotes from Bannon. Those aren't out of context so.....[/quote]Uh huh, the guy pushed out the way and hidden in the corner from view under a blanket. His advice was followed to the T.

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ElbertoHokie wrote:
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The House of Delegates swing surprises me. Makes me think the Democrats are going to be very excited to vote against The Party of Trump as long as he's in office. The next 3-7 years could be rough for Virginia Republicans, and that's not libertarians' fault. The Independents came out for the Democrats yesterday. And they will for next year's mid-terms too.


1. Candidates backed by Trump have won several special elections in the last year. Gillespie is/was a milquetoast RINO who rejected Trump. Don't fall for the MSM tripe on this.

2. Not to hijack the thread, but Libertarianism is a complete failure at every level.



Candidates who backed trump in special elections in very red states. The reason trump picked those people to be in his cabinet was because it was highly unlikely a democrat would replace them. No democrat is currently going to turn Alabama blue and at the state level, what's blue and red is also very different. There are elected democrats in the Virginia assembly that would be considered staunch republicans in a place like Massachusetts.


Trump-backed candidates have won in several elections where Dems were predicting victory.

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