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This is why teaching proper speech is important

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:18 pm
by USN_Hokie
Seriously though, if the facts are as suggested, people should have been able to understand what he meant.
The suspect told police ‘give me a lawyer dog.’ The court says he wasn’t asking for a lawyer.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/tru ... -a-lawyer/

Re: This is why teaching proper speech is important

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:19 pm
by awesome guy
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Re: This is why teaching proper speech is important

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:21 pm
by Hokie CPA
No effing way that holds up under appeal. You don't speak with commas. If a suspect says, "Give me a lawyer, dog," the interview is over and he has invoked his right to counsel.

Re: This is why teaching proper speech is important

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:23 pm
by awesome guy
Hokie CPA wrote:No effing way that holds up under appeal. You don't speak with commas. If a suspect says, "Give me a lawyer, dog," the interview is over and he has invoked his right to counsel.
I have it under "play stupid games, win stupid prizes".

Dog should be first word anyway for it to interpreted as the police are. I agree he wins, I'm saying he put himself in this situation by being a moron.

Re: This is why teaching proper speech is important

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:38 pm
by ip_law-hokie
USN_Hokie wrote:Seriously though, if the facts are as suggested, people should have been able to understand what he meant.
The suspect told police ‘give me a lawyer dog.’ The court says he wasn’t asking for a lawyer.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/tru ... -a-lawyer/
Louisiana.

Re: This is why teaching proper speech is important

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:41 pm
by BigDave
awesome guy wrote:Duplicate
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Re: This is why teaching proper speech is important

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:42 pm
by ip_law-hokie
BigDave wrote:
awesome guy wrote:Duplicate
Duplicate post dog
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Good work.


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Re: This is why teaching proper speech is important

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:45 pm
by USN_Hokie
awesome guy wrote:Duplicate
Link? I completely missed it

Re: This is why teaching proper speech is important

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:55 pm
by ip_law-hokie
USN_Hokie wrote:
awesome guy wrote:Duplicate
Link? I completely missed it
It's there if you look. In a (not) shocking development, cwtcr refers to our bill of rights as a "weak technicality."

Re: This is why teaching proper speech is important

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 6:20 pm
by HokieFanDC
ip_law-hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:Seriously though, if the facts are as suggested, people should have been able to understand what he meant.
The suspect told police ‘give me a lawyer dog.’ The court says he wasn’t asking for a lawyer.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/tru ... -a-lawyer/
Louisiana.
Yep. Louisiana and proper English do not really go together, for anyone.

Re: This is why teaching proper speech is important

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 8:51 pm
by ip_law-hokie
Neither does Louisiana and constitutional rights go together.


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Re: This is why teaching proper speech is important

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:20 pm
by cwtcr hokie
ip_law-hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
awesome guy wrote:Duplicate
Link? I completely missed it
It's there if you look. In a (not) shocking development, cwtcr refers to our bill of rights as a "weak technicality."
Again for the slow, the issue was wether the guys confession was valid in court due to the lawyer dawg issue, the court case can still go on without his confession, just makes it inadmissable, does not stop the whole case against him unless they have nothing else and decide to drop the charges. But again, my lament was letting a guy go that confesses to assaulting a minor for sex... if you re for that then why even discuss it with you. I know if I did not do anything I would never confess to it, would you?

Re: This is why teaching proper speech is important

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:32 pm
by ip_law-hokie
cwtcr hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
awesome guy wrote:Duplicate
Link? I completely missed it
It's there if you look. In a (not) shocking development, cwtcr refers to our bill of rights as a "weak technicality."
Again for the slow, the issue was wether the guys confession was valid in court due to the lawyer dawg issue, the court case can still go on without his confession, just makes it inadmissable, does not stop the whole case against him unless they have nothing else and decide to drop the charges. But again, my lament was letting a guy go that confesses to assaulting a minor for sex... if you re for that then why even discuss it with you. I know if I did not do anything I would never confess to it, would you?
First, the appeal court will allow whatever statements were made after the defendant asked for a lawyer, dawg. That is what the article was about.

I don't know what the statements were, but your narrative does not fit the facts that have been published.

Re: This is why teaching proper speech is important

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:26 am
by USN_Hokie
ip_law-hokie wrote:Neither does Louisiana and constitutional rights go together.


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Napoleonic code for the win...

Re: This is why teaching proper speech is important

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:35 pm
by HokieFanDC
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USN_Hokie wrote:Seriously though, if the facts are as suggested, people should have been able to understand what he meant.
The suspect told police ‘give me a lawyer dog.’ The court says he wasn’t asking for a lawyer.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/tru ... -a-lawyer/

Re: This is why teaching proper speech is important

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 5:17 pm
by cwtcr hokie
ip_law-hokie wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
awesome guy wrote:Duplicate
Link? I completely missed it
It's there if you look. In a (not) shocking development, cwtcr refers to our bill of rights as a "weak technicality."
Again for the slow, the issue was wether the guys confession was valid in court due to the lawyer dawg issue, the court case can still go on without his confession, just makes it inadmissable, does not stop the whole case against him unless they have nothing else and decide to drop the charges. But again, my lament was letting a guy go that confesses to assaulting a minor for sex... if you re for that then why even discuss it with you. I know if I did not do anything I would never confess to it, would you?
First, the appeal court will allow whatever statements were made after the defendant asked for a lawyer, dawg. That is what the article was about.

I don't know what the statements were, but your narrative does not fit the facts that have been published.
correct, you were bitching about the courts ruling, my point was even if they disallow whatever he said that does not mean the guy is not going to trial is all. But again, if he is confessing to assaulting a minor in a sexual way I am not really worried if he asked for a lawyer or lawyer dawg. Would you confess to that if you did not do it, I sure would not. Now if he was tortured and then confessed I would have a problem with that confession, but he was not. But it would be great if he gets off and moves in next to you I bet, great neighbor for you

Re: This is why teaching proper speech is important

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 5:21 pm
by ip_law-hokie
cwtcr hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
awesome guy wrote:Duplicate
Link? I completely missed it
It's there if you look. In a (not) shocking development, cwtcr refers to our bill of rights as a "weak technicality."
Again for the slow, the issue was wether the guys confession was valid in court due to the lawyer dawg issue, the court case can still go on without his confession, just makes it inadmissable, does not stop the whole case against him unless they have nothing else and decide to drop the charges. But again, my lament was letting a guy go that confesses to assaulting a minor for sex... if you re for that then why even discuss it with you. I know if I did not do anything I would never confess to it, would you?
First, the appeal court will allow whatever statements were made after the defendant asked for a lawyer, dawg. That is what the article was about.

I don't know what the statements were, but your narrative does not fit the facts that have been published.
correct, you were bitching about the courts ruling, my point was even if they disallow whatever he said that does not mean the guy is not going to trial is all. But again, if he is confessing to assaulting a minor in a sexual way I am not really worried if he asked for a lawyer or lawyer dawg. Would you confess to that if you did not do it, I sure would not. Now if he was tortured and then confessed I would have a problem with that confession, but he was not. But it would be great if he gets off and moves in next to you I bet, great neighbor for you
You really shouldn’t be calling people slow.


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Re: This is why teaching proper speech is important

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 5:35 pm
by RiverguyVT
No way this stands

Re: This is why teaching proper speech is important

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 5:43 pm
by BigDave
RiverguyVT wrote:No way this stands
It's going to be overturned dog
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Re: This is why teaching proper speech is important

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 5:54 pm
by ip_law-hokie
RiverguyVT wrote:No way this stands
It was the highest court in La that issued the ruling to allow the evidence to be entered.


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Re: This is why teaching proper speech is important

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:07 pm
by RiverguyVT
ip_law-hokie wrote:
RiverguyVT wrote:No way this stands
It was the highest court in La that issued the ruling to allow the evidence to be entered.


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Yowza. Did not read the article, just scanned these posts.
:o

Re: This is why teaching proper speech is important

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:17 pm
by ip_law-hokie
RiverguyVT wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
RiverguyVT wrote:No way this stands
It was the highest court in La that issued the ruling to allow the evidence to be entered.


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Yowza. Did not read the article, just scanned these posts.
:o
Louisiana.


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