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Warning Fake News: Gillespie victory would vindicate Trump

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 5:52 pm
by TheH2

Re: Warning Fake News: Gillespie victory would vindicate Tru

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 5:58 pm
by WestEndHokie39
I agree- I mean, if an establishment Republican with no charisma could have defeated Northam, that would be YUGE news. However, EdG generated little enthusiasm in the establishment base in Virginia and none with voters who voted for Trump, from what I could tell.

Re: Warning Fake News: Gillespie victory would vindicate Tru

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:32 pm
by BigDave
WestEndHokie39 wrote:
I agree- I mean, if an establishment Republican with no charisma could have defeated Northam, that would be YUGE news. However, EdG generated little enthusiasm in the establishment base in Virginia and none with voters who voted for Trump, from what I could tell.
Everyone I know personally who voted for Trump voted for Gillespie. A few people I know who either voted for Hillary or voted third party voted for Gillespie.

At least one problem was that Northam, unlike Hillary, isn't a criminal who belongs in jail ... so some of the people I know who voted third party voted for Northam. Trump got 44.4% of Virginia and Gillespie got 45%. So in terms of percentage of votes won, Gillespie outperformed Trump slightly. But Northam didn't have the negatives that Hillary did so Northam outperformed Hillary by far more than Gillespie outperformed Trump.

Re: Warning Fake News: Gillespie victory would vindicate Tru

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:34 pm
by ip_law-hokie
BigDave wrote:
WestEndHokie39 wrote:
I agree- I mean, if an establishment Republican with no charisma could have defeated Northam, that would be YUGE news. However, EdG generated little enthusiasm in the establishment base in Virginia and none with voters who voted for Trump, from what I could tell.
Everyone I know personally who voted for Trump voted for Gillespie. A few people I know who either voted for Hillary or voted third party voted for Gillespie.

At least one problem was that Northam, unlike Hillary, isn't a criminal who belongs in jail ... so some of the people I know who voted third party voted for Northam. Trump got 44.4% of Virginia and Gillespie got 45%. So in terms of percentage of votes won, Gillespie outperformed Trump slightly. But Northam didn't have the negatives that Hillary did so Northam outperformed Hillary by far more than Gillespie outperformed Trump.
That's a solid take.

Re: Warning Fake News: Gillespie victory would vindicate Tru

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:43 pm
by Major Kong
I didn't expect Cousin Ed to win. :)

Re: Warning Fake News: Gillespie victory would vindicate Tru

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:57 pm
by HokieFanDC
Major Kong wrote:I didn't expect Cousin Ed to win. :)
Yeh, it's really a miracle that he came that close.

Re: Warning Fake News: Gillespie victory would vindicate Tru

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:02 pm
by Major Kong
HokieFanDC wrote:
Major Kong wrote:I didn't expect Cousin Ed to win. :)
Yeh, it's really a miracle that he came that close.
I actually thought Jill Vogel would have done better. I didn't think Adams would win either.

Re: Warning Fake News: Gillespie victory would vindicate Tru

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:08 pm
by 133743Hokie
BigDave wrote:
WestEndHokie39 wrote:
I agree- I mean, if an establishment Republican with no charisma could have defeated Northam, that would be YUGE news. However, EdG generated little enthusiasm in the establishment base in Virginia and none with voters who voted for Trump, from what I could tell.
Everyone I know personally who voted for Trump voted for Gillespie. A few people I know who either voted for Hillary or voted third party voted for Gillespie.

At least one problem was that Northam, unlike Hillary, isn't a criminal who belongs in jail ... so some of the people I know who voted third party voted for Northam. Trump got 44.4% of Virginia and Gillespie got 45%. So in terms of percentage of votes won, Gillespie outperformed Trump slightly. But Northam didn't have the negatives that Hillary did so Northam outperformed Hillary by far more than Gillespie outperformed Trump.
Additionally, the democrats came out in force for the election so their numbers were gonna be good.

Re: Warning Fake News: Gillespie victory would vindicate Tru

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:11 pm
by awesome guy
133743Hokie wrote:
BigDave wrote:
WestEndHokie39 wrote:
I agree- I mean, if an establishment Republican with no charisma could have defeated Northam, that would be YUGE news. However, EdG generated little enthusiasm in the establishment base in Virginia and none with voters who voted for Trump, from what I could tell.
Everyone I know personally who voted for Trump voted for Gillespie. A few people I know who either voted for Hillary or voted third party voted for Gillespie.

At least one problem was that Northam, unlike Hillary, isn't a criminal who belongs in jail ... so some of the people I know who voted third party voted for Northam. Trump got 44.4% of Virginia and Gillespie got 45%. So in terms of percentage of votes won, Gillespie outperformed Trump slightly. But Northam didn't have the negatives that Hillary did so Northam outperformed Hillary by far more than Gillespie outperformed Trump.
Additionally, the democrats came out in force for the election so their numbers were gonna be good.
The illegals and fellons were a big boost.

Re: Warning Fake News: Gillespie victory would vindicate Tru

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:52 am
by HokieJoe
Charlottesville mobilized a lot of the nuts and galvanized their moronic belief that the Nazi party is (magically) making a comeback. They're quite the ignorant lot.

Re: Warning Fake News: Gillespie victory would vindicate Tru

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:43 pm
by RiverguyVT
BigDave wrote:
WestEndHokie39 wrote:
I agree- I mean, if an establishment Republican with no charisma could have defeated Northam, that would be YUGE news. However, EdG generated little enthusiasm in the establishment base in Virginia and none with voters who voted for Trump, from what I could tell.
Everyone I know personally who voted for Trump voted for Gillespie. A few people I know who either voted for Hillary or voted third party voted for Gillespie.

At least one problem was that Northam, unlike Hillary, isn't a criminal who belongs in jail ... so some of the people I know who voted third party voted for Northam. Trump got 44.4% of Virginia and Gillespie got 45%. So in terms of percentage of votes won, Gillespie outperformed Trump slightly. But Northam didn't have the negatives that Hillary did so Northam outperformed Hillary by far more than Gillespie outperformed Trump.

Well, he isn't a criminal like McAuliffe, which is more directly relevant to VA. I remain amazed our state elected TerryM. Combo of ignorance, & or just not knowing 1990s recent history. Treason is no small matter.

Re: Warning Fake News: Gillespie victory would vindicate Tru

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:58 pm
by UpstateSCHokie
HokieJoe wrote:Charlottesville mobilized a lot of the nuts and galvanized their moronic belief that the Nazi party is (magically) making a comeback. They're quite the ignorant lot.
I'm still convinced that McAuliffe directed the police in a way to maximize the conflict and violence that occurred that day. And he did this to get those nuts angry and motivated to vote against Republicans. And just like they always do, the dupes fell for it hook line & sinker. Manipulating crazy people has become an art form for crooked Democrats like McAuliffe.

Re: Warning Fake News: Gillespie victory would vindicate Tru

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 1:36 pm
by USN_Hokie
BigDave wrote: Trump got 44.4% of Virginia and Gillespie got 45%. So in terms of percentage of votes won, Gillespie outperformed Trump slightly. But Northam didn't have the negatives that Hillary did so Northam outperformed Hillary by far more than Gillespie outperformed Trump.
Trump got more than a half million votes more than Gillespie. Also, Northam beat Hillary by a much larger margin % wise. It's really hard to do apples:apples between presidential elections and state/midterms.

Re: Warning Fake News: Gillespie victory would vindicate Tru

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 1:41 pm
by USN_Hokie
RiverguyVT wrote:
BigDave wrote:
WestEndHokie39 wrote:
I agree- I mean, if an establishment Republican with no charisma could have defeated Northam, that would be YUGE news. However, EdG generated little enthusiasm in the establishment base in Virginia and none with voters who voted for Trump, from what I could tell.
Everyone I know personally who voted for Trump voted for Gillespie. A few people I know who either voted for Hillary or voted third party voted for Gillespie.

At least one problem was that Northam, unlike Hillary, isn't a criminal who belongs in jail ... so some of the people I know who voted third party voted for Northam. Trump got 44.4% of Virginia and Gillespie got 45%. So in terms of percentage of votes won, Gillespie outperformed Trump slightly. But Northam didn't have the negatives that Hillary did so Northam outperformed Hillary by far more than Gillespie outperformed Trump.

Well, he isn't a criminal like McAuliffe, which is more directly relevant to VA. I remain amazed our state elected TerryM. Combo of ignorance, & or just not knowing 1990s recent history. Treason is no small matter.
...but Cuccinelli wore a lapel pin which didn't have exposed nipples. Guess we had no choice but stay home or vote for the guy who calls himself a libertarian and is funded (coincidentally) by the left!

The Democrats have manipulation on the electorate down to a science in Virginia.

Re: Warning Fake News: Gillespie victory would vindicate Tru

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 1:46 pm
by BG Hokie
WestEndHokie39 wrote:
I agree- I mean, if an establishment Republican with no charisma could have defeated Northam, that would be YUGE news. However, EdG generated little enthusiasm in the establishment base in Virginia and none with voters who voted for Trump, from what I could tell.
So in other words, to be an electable Republican like Trump, you need to be a coarse blow hard that is as thin skinned as a middle schooler in the face of anything negative.

Re: Warning Fake News: Gillespie victory would vindicate Tru

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 1:50 pm
by BigDave
USN_Hokie wrote:
BigDave wrote: Trump got 44.4% of Virginia and Gillespie got 45%. So in terms of percentage of votes won, Gillespie outperformed Trump slightly. But Northam didn't have the negatives that Hillary did so Northam outperformed Hillary by far more than Gillespie outperformed Trump.
Trump got more than a half million votes more than Gillespie. Also, Northam beat Hillary by a much larger margin % wise. It's really hard to do apples:apples between presidential elections and state/midterms.
Trump got more votes but turnout is much higher for a Presidential election.

Re: Warning Fake News: Gillespie victory would vindicate Tru

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 1:52 pm
by ip_law-hokie
BG Hokie wrote:
WestEndHokie39 wrote:
I agree- I mean, if an establishment Republican with no charisma could have defeated Northam, that would be YUGE news. However, EdG generated little enthusiasm in the establishment base in Virginia and none with voters who voted for Trump, from what I could tell.
So in other words, to be an electable Republican like Trump, you need to be a coarse blow hard that is as thin skinned as a middle schooler in the face of anything negative.
That and run against a corrupt politician with no charisma who rigged the primary against her more worthy opponent.


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Re: Warning Fake News: Gillespie victory would vindicate Tru

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 1:55 pm
by UpstateSCHokie
ip_law-hokie wrote:
BG Hokie wrote:
WestEndHokie39 wrote:
I agree- I mean, if an establishment Republican with no charisma could have defeated Northam, that would be YUGE news. However, EdG generated little enthusiasm in the establishment base in Virginia and none with voters who voted for Trump, from what I could tell.
So in other words, to be an electable Republican like Trump, you need to be a coarse blow hard that is as thin skinned as a middle schooler in the face of anything negative.
That and run against a corrupt politician with no charisma who rigged the primary against her more worthy opponent.


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If you're running in a swamp land states like NY, NJ, and VA, then yes. You have to overcome a lot of low info and illegal votes in states like that.

Re: Warning Fake News: Gillespie victory would vindicate Tru

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 1:58 pm
by ip_law-hokie
UpstateSCHokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
BG Hokie wrote:
WestEndHokie39 wrote:
I agree- I mean, if an establishment Republican with no charisma could have defeated Northam, that would be YUGE news. However, EdG generated little enthusiasm in the establishment base in Virginia and none with voters who voted for Trump, from what I could tell.
So in other words, to be an electable Republican like Trump, you need to be a coarse blow hard that is as thin skinned as a middle schooler in the face of anything negative.
That and run against a corrupt politician with no charisma who rigged the primary against her more worthy opponent.


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If you're running in a swamp land states like NY, NJ, and VA, then yes. You have to overcome a lot of low info and illegal votes in states like that.
Better off in more prosperous states like SC.


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Re: Warning Fake News: Gillespie victory would vindicate Tru

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 1:59 pm
by 133743Hokie
BG Hokie wrote:
WestEndHokie39 wrote:
I agree- I mean, if an establishment Republican with no charisma could have defeated Northam, that would be YUGE news. However, EdG generated little enthusiasm in the establishment base in Virginia and none with voters who voted for Trump, from what I could tell.
So in other words, to be an electable Republican like Trump, you need to be a coarse blow hard that is as thin skinned as a middle schooler in the face of anything negative.
.....or a conservative with core principles and values that is not part of the entrenched establishment. Of course that isn't going to happen because the party won't let them in.

Re: Warning Fake News: Gillespie victory would vindicate Tru

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 2:26 pm
by awesome guy
ip_law-hokie wrote:
BG Hokie wrote:
WestEndHokie39 wrote:
I agree- I mean, if an establishment Republican with no charisma could have defeated Northam, that would be YUGE news. However, EdG generated little enthusiasm in the establishment base in Virginia and none with voters who voted for Trump, from what I could tell.
So in other words, to be an electable Republican like Trump, you need to be a coarse blow hard that is as thin skinned as a middle schooler in the face of anything negative.
That and run against a corrupt politician with no charisma who rigged the primary against her more worthy opponent.


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Starting the day off with an agreeable post from IP!

#Winning

Re: Warning Fake News: Gillespie victory would vindicate Tru

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 2:29 pm
by awesome guy
BG Hokie wrote:
WestEndHokie39 wrote:
I agree- I mean, if an establishment Republican with no charisma could have defeated Northam, that would be YUGE news. However, EdG generated little enthusiasm in the establishment base in Virginia and none with voters who voted for Trump, from what I could tell.
So in other words, to be an electable Republican like Trump, you need to be a coarse blow hard that is as thin skinned as a middle schooler in the face of anything negative.
You're really missing it. The requirement is someone that punches back. Trump satisfies that. Granted it's better with polish like we had with Reagan, but that falls into the nice to have bucket.

Re: Warning Fake News: Gillespie victory would vindicate Tru

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 2:52 pm
by HokieJoe
UpstateSCHokie wrote:
HokieJoe wrote:Charlottesville mobilized a lot of the nuts and galvanized their moronic belief that the Nazi party is (magically) making a comeback. They're quite the ignorant lot.
I'm still convinced that McAuliffe directed the police in a way to maximize the conflict and violence that occurred that day. And he did this to get those nuts angry and motivated to vote against Republicans. And just like they always do, the dupes fell for it hook line & sinker. Manipulating crazy people has become an art form for crooked Democrats like McAuliffe.
Yep.

Re: Warning Fake News: Gillespie victory would vindicate Tru

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 3:10 pm
by Attila T Hun
HokieJoe wrote:Charlottesville mobilized a lot of the nuts and galvanized their moronic belief that the Nazi party is (magically) making a comeback. They're quite the ignorant lot.
Also known as low information voters.

Re: Warning Fake News: Gillespie victory would vindicate Tru

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 3:10 pm
by HokieJoe
133743Hokie wrote:
BG Hokie wrote:
WestEndHokie39 wrote:
I agree- I mean, if an establishment Republican with no charisma could have defeated Northam, that would be YUGE news. However, EdG generated little enthusiasm in the establishment base in Virginia and none with voters who voted for Trump, from what I could tell.
So in other words, to be an electable Republican like Trump, you need to be a coarse blow hard that is as thin skinned as a middle schooler in the face of anything negative.
.....or a conservative with core principles and values that is not part of the entrenched establishment. Of course that isn't going to happen because the party won't let them in.

Yep. That's why we need to root out the e-rats like McCain, McConnell, and Graham- one by one.