Good riddance to Congressman Franks
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:14 am
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First time you heard of him and are celebrating his departure. Tsk tsknolanvt wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... 29e27b501d
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Agreed. Doesn't seem like it's enough to warrant his resignation, but perhaps in this current climate of sexual harassment hysteria it is. But I wonder if there is more to it than this, and he's stepping down to prevent the rest of it coming out?HokieJoe wrote:Discussed surrogacy? Meh, sorta dumb, but I wouldn't call it harassment.
Depends on the context of the conversation to what extent harassment it was. It’s certainly creepy to ask your subordinate to be a surrogate and is generally unacceptable behavior. That’s why he’s resigning.HokieJoe wrote:Discussed surrogacy? Meh, sorta dumb, but I wouldn't call it harassment.
Definitely depends on the context, IMO. If they were having a simple conversation and he said his wife was unable to carry a child, and would she be interested in doing that- weird, but not sexual per se and not harassment- unless it was vulgar and repeated. I find it "weird" more than anything else.. The only way I could ask that would be as a joke and with a good friend type co worker.nolanvt wrote:Depends on the context of the conversation to what extent harassment it was. It’s certainly creepy to ask your subordinate to be a surrogate and is generally unacceptable behavior. That’s why he’s resigning.HokieJoe wrote:Discussed surrogacy? Meh, sorta dumb, but I wouldn't call it harassment.
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Balogney, unless he was making creepy passes at them (most people don't use the surrogate excuse) beside the fact that when you use a surrogate it is by artificial insemination. But these days anything can get your life destroyed, really stupid path we are takingnolanvt wrote:Depends on the context of the conversation to what extent harassment it was. It’s certainly creepy to ask your subordinate to be a surrogate and is generally unacceptable behavior. That’s why he’s resigning.HokieJoe wrote:Discussed surrogacy? Meh, sorta dumb, but I wouldn't call it harassment.
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He shouldn’t resign if he’s done nothing wrong.cwtcr hokie wrote:Balogney, unless he was making creepy passes at them (most people don't use the surrogate excuse) beside the fact that when you use a surrogate it is by artificial insemination. But these days anything can get your life destroyed, really stupid path we are takingnolanvt wrote:Depends on the context of the conversation to what extent harassment it was. It’s certainly creepy to ask your subordinate to be a surrogate and is generally unacceptable behavior. That’s why he’s resigning.HokieJoe wrote:Discussed surrogacy? Meh, sorta dumb, but I wouldn't call it harassment.
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But as with every other case there needs to be some evidence as it is all speculation and who do you believe... psst.. people lie
Yep... and I'm guessing since it was a subordinate and perhaps he asked it in a "sexual" way- like your body looks like it would make a good surrogate or "you have nice child bearing hips" etc.. I'm guessing the "tone" of it was in fact sexual/based on their bodies/looks or something.nolanvt wrote:He shouldn’t resign if he’s done nothing wrong.cwtcr hokie wrote:Balogney, unless he was making creepy passes at them (most people don't use the surrogate excuse) beside the fact that when you use a surrogate it is by artificial insemination. But these days anything can get your life destroyed, really stupid path we are takingnolanvt wrote:Depends on the context of the conversation to what extent harassment it was. It’s certainly creepy to ask your subordinate to be a surrogate and is generally unacceptable behavior. That’s why he’s resigning.HokieJoe wrote:Discussed surrogacy? Meh, sorta dumb, but I wouldn't call it harassment.
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But as with every other case there needs to be some evidence as it is all speculation and who do you believe... psst.. people lie
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CFB Apologist wrote:Yep... and I'm guessing since it was a subordinate and perhaps he asked it in a "sexual" way- like your body looks like it would make a good surrogate or "you have nice child bearing hips" etc.. I'm guessing the "tone" of it was in fact sexual/based on their bodies/looks or something.nolanvt wrote:He shouldn’t resign if he’s done nothing wrong.cwtcr hokie wrote:Balogney, unless he was making creepy passes at them (most people don't use the surrogate excuse) beside the fact that when you use a surrogate it is by artificial insemination. But these days anything can get your life destroyed, really stupid path we are takingnolanvt wrote:Depends on the context of the conversation to what extent harassment it was. It’s certainly creepy to ask your subordinate to be a surrogate and is generally unacceptable behavior. That’s why he’s resigning.HokieJoe wrote:Discussed surrogacy? Meh, sorta dumb, but I wouldn't call it harassment.
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But as with every other case there needs to be some evidence as it is all speculation and who do you believe... psst.. people lie
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maybe he does not want to be drug thru the mud, not worth it. He probably had some life before he went to congress, go back to it. People do things all the time when they are not guilty of anything....Does evidence mean anything to you. I saw you banging a goat the other day....so it has to to be true, I would not lie or anything, right?nolanvt wrote:He shouldn’t resign if he’s done nothing wrong.cwtcr hokie wrote:Balogney, unless he was making creepy passes at them (most people don't use the surrogate excuse) beside the fact that when you use a surrogate it is by artificial insemination. But these days anything can get your life destroyed, really stupid path we are takingnolanvt wrote:Depends on the context of the conversation to what extent harassment it was. It’s certainly creepy to ask your subordinate to be a surrogate and is generally unacceptable behavior. That’s why he’s resigning.HokieJoe wrote:Discussed surrogacy? Meh, sorta dumb, but I wouldn't call it harassment.
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But as with every other case there needs to be some evidence as it is all speculation and who do you believe... psst.. people lie
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UpstateSCHokie wrote:Agreed. Doesn't seem like it's enough to warrant his resignation, but perhaps in this current climate of sexual harassment hysteria it is. But I wonder if there is more to it than this, and he's stepping down to prevent the rest of it coming out?HokieJoe wrote:Discussed surrogacy? Meh, sorta dumb, but I wouldn't call it harassment.
If he joked with them, then you see the problem. If he made a pass at them then that is between his wife and himself. Unless he did something to affect their employment where is the harassment. But we don't know what occurred but it is the overreaction this country is caught up in. Again, if jokes or trying to get into a relationship in the office gets everyone fired.... our unemployment rate is going to skyrocket or just stay far away from any female and do not talk with themHokieJoe wrote:UpstateSCHokie wrote:Agreed. Doesn't seem like it's enough to warrant his resignation, but perhaps in this current climate of sexual harassment hysteria it is. But I wonder if there is more to it than this, and he's stepping down to prevent the rest of it coming out?HokieJoe wrote:Discussed surrogacy? Meh, sorta dumb, but I wouldn't call it harassment.
Could be more than has been reported. If so, then he should have resigned. And truthfully, there aren't many good ways to broach the subject. I would suggest involving your wife in discussions involving the coworkers though.
You really think that's harassment?nolanvt wrote:Yeah, this is definitely appropriate...
https://www.apnews.com/ca905b7b6e264683832a038521f5353f
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Repeatedly asking your subordinate (who keeps saying no) to be a surrogate is inappropriate, yes.awesome guy wrote:You really think that's harassment?nolanvt wrote:Yeah, this is definitely appropriate...
https://www.apnews.com/ca905b7b6e264683832a038521f5353f
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so that is sex harassment? did it affect her job? Did he do anything other than ask her and make an offer of payment (surrogates usually get paid to do the service I think)nolanvt wrote:Yeah, this is definitely appropriate...
https://www.apnews.com/ca905b7b6e264683832a038521f5353f
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4 or 5 times isn't inappropriate or harassment.nolanvt wrote:Repeatedly asking your subordinate (who keeps saying no) to be a surrogate is inappropriate, yes.awesome guy wrote:You really think that's harassment?nolanvt wrote:Yeah, this is definitely appropriate...
https://www.apnews.com/ca905b7b6e264683832a038521f5353f
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Again, so we are to believe the account from one side? You have proof that he asked repeatedly or even the amount of payment? I am failing to see how the subordinate was harmed though? Saying no it not a traumatic event.nolanvt wrote:Repeatedly asking your subordinate (who keeps saying no) to be a surrogate is inappropriate, yes.awesome guy wrote:You really think that's harassment?nolanvt wrote:Yeah, this is definitely appropriate...
https://www.apnews.com/ca905b7b6e264683832a038521f5353f
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Seems most similar to offering sidework. BFD.cwtcr hokie wrote:Again, so we are to believe the account from one side? You have proof that he asked repeatedly or even the amount of payment? I am failing to see how the subordinate was harmed though? Saying no it not a traumatic event.nolanvt wrote:Repeatedly asking your subordinate (who keeps saying no) to be a surrogate is inappropriate, yes.awesome guy wrote:You really think that's harassment?nolanvt wrote:Yeah, this is definitely appropriate...
https://www.apnews.com/ca905b7b6e264683832a038521f5353f
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Maybe he resigned because he didn’t anything wrong.cwtcr hokie wrote:Again, so we are to believe the account from one side? You have proof that he asked repeatedly or even the amount of payment? I am failing to see how the subordinate was harmed though? Saying no it not a traumatic event.nolanvt wrote:Repeatedly asking your subordinate (who keeps saying no) to be a surrogate is inappropriate, yes.awesome guy wrote:You really think that's harassment?nolanvt wrote:Yeah, this is definitely appropriate...
https://www.apnews.com/ca905b7b6e264683832a038521f5353f
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LOL! I love UWS!awesome guy wrote:4 or 5 times isn't inappropriate or harassment.nolanvt wrote:Repeatedly asking your subordinate (who keeps saying no) to be a surrogate is inappropriate, yes.awesome guy wrote:You really think that's harassment?nolanvt wrote:Yeah, this is definitely appropriate...
https://www.apnews.com/ca905b7b6e264683832a038521f5353f
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Disagree.nolanvt wrote:He shouldn’t resign if he’s done nothing wrong.cwtcr hokie wrote:Balogney, unless he was making creepy passes at them (most people don't use the surrogate excuse) beside the fact that when you use a surrogate it is by artificial insemination. But these days anything can get your life destroyed, really stupid path we are takingnolanvt wrote:Depends on the context of the conversation to what extent harassment it was. It’s certainly creepy to ask your subordinate to be a surrogate and is generally unacceptable behavior. That’s why he’s resigning.HokieJoe wrote:Discussed surrogacy? Meh, sorta dumb, but I wouldn't call it harassment.
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But as with every other case there needs to be some evidence as it is all speculation and who do you believe... psst.. people lie
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Because Ryan told him he's done.nolanvt wrote:Maybe he resigned because he didn’t anything wrong.cwtcr hokie wrote:Again, so we are to believe the account from one side? You have proof that he asked repeatedly or even the amount of payment? I am failing to see how the subordinate was harmed though? Saying no it not a traumatic event.nolanvt wrote:Repeatedly asking your subordinate (who keeps saying no) to be a surrogate is inappropriate, yes.awesome guy wrote:You really think that's harassment?nolanvt wrote:Yeah, this is definitely appropriate...
https://www.apnews.com/ca905b7b6e264683832a038521f5353f
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