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It’s law! Trump just signed

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 4:18 pm
by RiverguyVT
Let’s hopw it was read, before passing to find out what’s in it...LOL

Re: It’s law! Trump just signed

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 4:32 pm
by WestEndHokie39
RiverguyVT wrote:Let’s hopw it was read, before passing to find out what’s in it...LOL
Trump has been a pleasant surprise for me. I didn't have high hopes when he got elected, but he has made significant beneficial changes in the direction of this country:

1. Gorsuch- home run appointment of a judge who actually knows and follows the constitution.
2. Clean Waters Act repeal- an awful government overreach that had been smacked down already in court.
3. Tax cuts- the reduction in the corporate rate is YUGE- the US will now be competitive.
4. ObumblesCare mandate- another example of a blantantly unconstitutional act of government.
5. Bears Ears reduction- he should have reversed this entirely and let the state of Utah run it, but this was also good.

There have been others, but these came immediately to mind.

Re: It’s law! Trump just signed

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 4:37 pm
by awesome guy
WestEndHokie39 wrote:
RiverguyVT wrote:Let’s hopw it was read, before passing to find out what’s in it...LOL
Trump has been a pleasant surprise for me. I didn't have high hopes when he got elected, but he has made significant beneficial changes in the direction of this country:

1. Gorsuch- home run appointment of a judge who actually knows and follows the constitution.
2. Clean Waters Act repeal- an awful government overreach that had been smacked down already in court.
3. Tax cuts- the reduction in the corporate rate is YUGE- the US will now be competitive.
4. ObumblesCare mandate- another example of a blantantly unconstitutional act of government.
5. Bears Ears reduction- he should have reversed this entirely and let the state of Utah run it, but this was also good.

There have been others, but these came immediately to mind.
Oh ye of little faith

Re: It’s law! Trump just signed

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 4:38 pm
by 133743Hokie
WestEndHokie39 wrote:
RiverguyVT wrote:Let’s hopw it was read, before passing to find out what’s in it...LOL
Trump has been a pleasant surprise for me. I didn't have high hopes when he got elected, but he has made significant beneficial changes in the direction of this country:

1. Gorsuch- home run appointment of a judge who actually knows and follows the constitution.
2. Clean Waters Act repeal- an awful government overreach that had been smacked down already in court.
3. Tax cuts- the reduction in the corporate rate is YUGE- the US will now be competitive.
4. ObumblesCare mandate- another example of a blantantly unconstitutional act of government.
5. Bears Ears reduction- he should have reversed this entirely and let the state of Utah run it, but this was also good.

There have been others, but these came immediately to mind.
6. Overturning net neutrality - leaving control w/ the carriers vs. the content providers
7. Rescinding DreamAct EO - providing a window to force congress to deal w/ this thru legislation

Re: It’s law! Trump just signed

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 4:43 pm
by Major Kong
RiverguyVT wrote:Let’s hopw it was read, before passing to find out what’s in it...LOL
So does this mean the world stops turning today and we're all gonna die :?:

Re: It’s law! Trump just signed

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 4:59 pm
by HokieFanDC
WestEndHokie39 wrote:
RiverguyVT wrote:Let’s hopw it was read, before passing to find out what’s in it...LOL
Trump has been a pleasant surprise for me. I didn't have high hopes when he got elected, but he has made significant beneficial changes in the direction of this country:

1. Gorsuch- home run appointment of a judge who actually knows and follows the constitution.
2. Clean Waters Act repeal- an awful government overreach that had been smacked down already in court.
3. Tax cuts- the reduction in the corporate rate is YUGE- the US will now be competitive.
4. ObumblesCare mandate- another example of a blantantly unconstitutional act of government.
5. Bears Ears reduction- he should have reversed this entirely and let the state of Utah run it, but this was also good.

There have been others, but these came immediately to mind.
That's a decent list. It's too bad he spends all his P/R capital being a big baby on Twitter, instead of focusing on his accomplishments and goals.

Re: It’s law! Trump just signed

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 5:04 pm
by awesome guy
HokieFanDC wrote:
WestEndHokie39 wrote:
RiverguyVT wrote:Let’s hopw it was read, before passing to find out what’s in it...LOL
Trump has been a pleasant surprise for me. I didn't have high hopes when he got elected, but he has made significant beneficial changes in the direction of this country:

1. Gorsuch- home run appointment of a judge who actually knows and follows the constitution.
2. Clean Waters Act repeal- an awful government overreach that had been smacked down already in court.
3. Tax cuts- the reduction in the corporate rate is YUGE- the US will now be competitive.
4. ObumblesCare mandate- another example of a blantantly unconstitutional act of government.
5. Bears Ears reduction- he should have reversed this entirely and let the state of Utah run it, but this was also good.

There have been others, but these came immediately to mind.
That's a decent list. It's too bad he spends all his P/R capital being a big baby on Twitter, instead of focusing on his accomplishments and goals.
That's a distraction for idiots, it worked.

Re: It’s law! Trump just signed

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 5:12 pm
by HokieHam
awesome guy wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
WestEndHokie39 wrote:
RiverguyVT wrote:Let’s hopw it was read, before passing to find out what’s in it...LOL
Trump has been a pleasant surprise for me. I didn't have high hopes when he got elected, but he has made significant beneficial changes in the direction of this country:

1. Gorsuch- home run appointment of a judge who actually knows and follows the constitution.
2. Clean Waters Act repeal- an awful government overreach that had been smacked down already in court.
3. Tax cuts- the reduction in the corporate rate is YUGE- the US will now be competitive.
4. ObumblesCare mandate- another example of a blantantly unconstitutional act of government.
5. Bears Ears reduction- he should have reversed this entirely and let the state of Utah run it, but this was also good.

There have been others, but these came immediately to mind.
That's a decent list. It's too bad he spends all his P/R capital being a big baby on Twitter, instead of focusing on his accomplishments and goals.
That's a distraction for idiots, it worked.
I’m starting to think there is a middle here.....or maybe he just is that tuned in to trolling and exposing the utter nuttiness of the left and the total bias of the media.

Re: It’s law! Trump just signed

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 5:19 pm
by HokieHam
133743Hokie wrote:
WestEndHokie39 wrote:
RiverguyVT wrote:Let’s hopw it was read, before passing to find out what’s in it...LOL
Trump has been a pleasant surprise for me. I didn't have high hopes when he got elected, but he has made significant beneficial changes in the direction of this country:

1. Gorsuch- home run appointment of a judge who actually knows and follows the constitution.
2. Clean Waters Act repeal- an awful government overreach that had been smacked down already in court.
3. Tax cuts- the reduction in the corporate rate is YUGE- the US will now be competitive.
4. ObumblesCare mandate- another example of a blantantly unconstitutional act of government.
5. Bears Ears reduction- he should have reversed this entirely and let the state of Utah run it, but this was also good.

There have been others, but these came immediately to mind.
6. Overturning net neutrality - leaving control w/ the carriers vs. the content providers
7. Rescinding DreamAct EO - providing a window to force congress to deal w/ this thru legislation
8. Ending government subsidies for abortions in foreign countries.

Re: It’s law! Trump just signed

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 5:21 pm
by HokieFanDC
awesome guy wrote:
HokieFanDC wrote:
WestEndHokie39 wrote:
RiverguyVT wrote:Let’s hopw it was read, before passing to find out what’s in it...LOL
Trump has been a pleasant surprise for me. I didn't have high hopes when he got elected, but he has made significant beneficial changes in the direction of this country:

1. Gorsuch- home run appointment of a judge who actually knows and follows the constitution.
2. Clean Waters Act repeal- an awful government overreach that had been smacked down already in court.
3. Tax cuts- the reduction in the corporate rate is YUGE- the US will now be competitive.
4. ObumblesCare mandate- another example of a blantantly unconstitutional act of government.
5. Bears Ears reduction- he should have reversed this entirely and let the state of Utah run it, but this was also good.

There have been others, but these came immediately to mind.
That's a decent list. It's too bad he spends all his P/R capital being a big baby on Twitter, instead of focusing on his accomplishments and goals.
That's a distraction for idiots, it worked.
What do you think he’s distracting people from paying attention to?

Re: It’s law! Trump just signed

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 5:26 pm
by ip_law-hokie
Cap’n’s kids and cwtcers nephews will be paying for my tax cut. They’re ****, but oh well.


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Re: It’s law! Trump just signed

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 5:56 pm
by USN_Hokie
ip_law-hokie wrote:Cap’n’s kids and cwtcers nephews will be paying for my tax cut. They’re ****, but oh well.


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Pretty sure you and your boyfriend are going to be paying more. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Re: It’s law! Trump just signed

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:01 pm
by TheH2
WestEndHokie39 wrote: 3. Tax cuts- the reduction in the corporate rate is YUGE- the US will now be competitive.
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: It’s law! Trump just signed

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:06 pm
by HvilleHokie
TheH2 wrote:
WestEndHokie39 wrote: 3. Tax cuts- the reduction in the corporate rate is YUGE- the US will now be competitive.
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah.. the worlds leading economy where nearly all innovation takes place can finally be competitive!

Re: It’s law! Trump just signed

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:14 pm
by HokieHam
ip_law-hokie wrote:Cap’n’s kids and cwtcers nephews will be paying for my tax cut. They’re ****, but oh well.


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Yet they weren’t when Obeezy added $9T to the debt?

Re: It’s law! Trump just signed

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:25 pm
by HokieFanDC
TheH2 wrote:
WestEndHokie39 wrote: 3. Tax cuts- the reduction in the corporate rate is YUGE- the US will now be competitive.
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Taking the part about being competitive out, do you agree or disagree with the corp tax cut.
IMO, it's long overdue, and could/should spur more private investment and growth. It should allow investment to shift from gov. to private. I would have preferred the corp. tax cuts to be more gradual and come with some hooks related to US job growth, and expansion, but it's a start.

Re: It’s law! Trump just signed

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:27 pm
by USN_Hokie
RiverguyVT wrote:Let’s hopw it was read, before passing to find out what’s in it...LOL
I was just in the grocery store and braces magically appeared on all the little kids' legs. The the gays were rounded up and put on trains. It was horrible.

Re: It’s law! Trump just signed

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:41 pm
by HokieHam
HokieFanDC wrote:
TheH2 wrote:
WestEndHokie39 wrote: 3. Tax cuts- the reduction in the corporate rate is YUGE- the US will now be competitive.
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Taking the part about being competitive out, do you agree or disagree with the corp tax cut.
IMO, it's long overdue, and could/should spur more private investment and growth. It should allow investment to shift from gov. to private. I would have preferred the corp. tax cuts to be more gradual and come with some hooks related to US job growth, and expansion, but it's a start.
Yup. Long overdo and they need to simplify it even more.

Re: It’s law! Trump just signed

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:48 pm
by ip_law-hokie
USN_Hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:Cap’n’s kids and cwtcers nephews will be paying for my tax cut. They’re ****, but oh well.


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Pretty sure you and your boyfriend are going to be paying more. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
I’ll trust my CPA over you Cap’n. Sorry.


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Re: It’s law! Trump just signed

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 7:11 pm
by TheH2
HokieFanDC wrote:
TheH2 wrote:
WestEndHokie39 wrote: 3. Tax cuts- the reduction in the corporate rate is YUGE- the US will now be competitive.
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Taking the part about being competitive out, do you agree or disagree with the corp tax cut.
IMO, it's long overdue, and could/should spur more private investment and growth. It should allow investment to shift from gov. to private. I would have preferred the corp. tax cuts to be more gradual and come with some hooks related to US job growth, and expansion, but it's a start.
Yes, I agree with the corp tax rate cut. I thought the OECD average was probably the best rate, the new U.S. rate is just a few percentage points lower. Don't get your hopes up for more private investment and growth. For multinationals, it's not about jobs, it's about paying less taxes. Jobs don't migrate overseas because of tax rates, profit do. Jobs migrate overseas because companies are multinational (or for cheaper labor). It's not an issue to get the necessary funds in the U.S. to fund the operations/invest.

The best hope for investment would be the "pass-through" companies which are not subject to corporate tax cut but previously paid personal income tax. In the end, this is probably small. Sample size of 1, it won't change much where I work.

Edit, my company is exempt from the pass-through reduction, so no changes here.

Re: It’s law! Trump just signed

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 7:14 pm
by WestEndHokie39
TheH2 wrote:
WestEndHokie39 wrote: 3. Tax cuts- the reduction in the corporate rate is YUGE- the US will now be competitive.
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What I meant was it was stupid to have a rate that was so much higher than the rest of the world- in other words, the tax rate is more competitive. It should be zero, but that's another discussion.

Re: It’s law! Trump just signed

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 7:16 pm
by RiverguyVT
ip_law-hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:Cap’n’s kids and cwtcers nephews will be paying for my tax cut. They’re ****, but oh well.


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Pretty sure you and your boyfriend are going to be paying more. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
I’ll trust my CPA over you Cap’n. Sorry.


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CPAs aren't economists.
In my estimation (CBO be darned), govt revenue will go up robustly as a result of the tax cuts. If the deficit increases, it will be due to spending...not revenue shortfall.

Good to see liberals finally coming around on debt tho. Debt hasn't mattered for over 8 years.

Re: It’s law! Trump just signed

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 7:19 pm
by RiverguyVT
HvilleHokie wrote:
TheH2 wrote:
WestEndHokie39 wrote: 3. Tax cuts- the reduction in the corporate rate is YUGE- the US will now be competitive.
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah.. the worlds leading economy where nearly all innovation takes place can finally be competitive!
We were being told the other day that the US isn't the leader.
Which is it?

I'm shocked that a liberal would cop to the notion that innovation comes from the US. I thought the US was to be mocked and diminished, not held up for admiration.
Shocked!! :o

Re: It’s law! Trump just signed

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 7:28 pm
by WestEndHokie39
RiverguyVT wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:Cap’n’s kids and cwtcers nephews will be paying for my tax cut. They’re ****, but oh well.


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Pretty sure you and your boyfriend are going to be paying more. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
I’ll trust my CPA over you Cap’n. Sorry.


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CPAs aren't economists.
In my estimation (CBO be darned), govt revenue will go up robustly as a result of the tax cuts. If the deficit increases, it will be due to spending...not revenue shortfall.

Good to see liberals finally coming around on debt tho. Debt hasn't mattered for over 8 years.
And it won't matter to the Democrats again when they gain the Presidency.

Re: It’s law! Trump just signed

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 7:43 pm
by TheH2
RiverguyVT wrote: CPAs aren't economists.
In my estimation (CBO be darned), govt revenue will go up robustly as a result of the tax cuts. If the deficit increases, it will be due to spending...not revenue shortfall.
LOL. We have history as a guide, it doesn't and it won't. Better chance VT basketball wins the national championship this year.
Good to see liberals finally coming around on debt tho. Debt hasn't mattered for over 8 years.

EDIT: Post fixed!