As to the quality of care all you have to do is look at the other large euro-socialist countries (Canada, UK, etc) with national healthcare to see how poor their care is compared to ours. As to the cost, there are numerous studies out there that show the cost of national healthcare (with service at the level we have traditionally had) to be about an additional $1.5T per year.ip_law-hokie wrote:You say that, but offer no proof.133743Hokie wrote:Again, single layer would be more expensive and a worse healthcare experience, so definitely not betterip_law-hokie wrote:I agree with everything you want to do. I sincerely hope they give it a shot.133743Hokie wrote:And I offered a cost savings solution about a page back, but you just wanted to keep droning "single layer".ip_law-hokie wrote:Taking what you say to be true, I do t see that this is sustainable unless better price controls are implemented. Your position is fine if it were not for the fact that we already cover a majority (or large percentage) of the populace already, and this is not going to change.133743Hokie wrote: I'm not playing your disingenuous games. I've already answered this earlier in the thread and you know that. Americans get much much more for their costs than do any other country in the world.Apples and oranges.
And FTR, i am disingenuous about a lot of geographical things, but not this.
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But I think your changes are trying to achieve an objective that single payer could more easily accomplish.
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Look at the VA...........You say that, but offer no proof.
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That onus is on you.ip_law-hokie wrote:You say that, but offer no proof.133743Hokie wrote: Again, single layer would be more expensive and a worse healthcare experience, so definitely not better
Luckily, we don't even need to go that far because providing health care is not a role of government.
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That’s a good example. We have multiple government entities acting as separate entities, reducing their ability to exert price control.HokieHam wrote:Look at the VA...........You say that, but offer no proof.
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With their Cap’n and Chief Intelligence Officer having deserted them, River, Ham and Joe valiantly continue their whataboutismistic last stand of the DJT apology tour.
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No we don't.ip_law-hokie wrote:That’s a good example. We have multiple government entities acting as separate entities, reducing their ability to exert price control.HokieHam wrote:Look at the VA...........You say that, but offer no proof.
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Also, prescription drug prices is a gnat on the ass of the the elephant that is healthcare.
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Or provide quality care at a reasonable costip_law-hokie wrote:That’s a good example. We have multiple government entities acting as separate entities, reducing their ability to exert price control.HokieHam wrote:Look at the VA...........You say that, but offer no proof.
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You have literally jackhammer that point into his head. It’s quality care..........period.133743Hokie wrote:Or provide quality care at a reasonable costip_law-hokie wrote:That’s a good example. We have multiple government entities acting as separate entities, reducing their ability to exert price control.HokieHam wrote:Look at the VA...........You say that, but offer no proof.
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"if you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face-forever."
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