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ip_law-hokie wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
133743Hokie wrote:
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133743Hokie wrote: I'm not playing your disingenuous games. I've already answered this earlier in the thread and you know that. Americans get much much more for their costs than do any other country in the world.Apples and oranges.
Taking what you say to be true, I do t see that this is sustainable unless better price controls are implemented. Your position is fine if it were not for the fact that we already cover a majority (or large percentage) of the populace already, and this is not going to change.

And FTR, i am disingenuous about a lot of geographical things, but not this.


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And I offered a cost savings solution about a page back, but you just wanted to keep droning "single layer".
I agree with everything you want to do. I sincerely hope they give it a shot.

But I think your changes are trying to achieve an objective that single payer could more easily accomplish.


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Again, single layer would be more expensive and a worse healthcare experience, so definitely not better
You say that, but offer no proof.


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As to the quality of care all you have to do is look at the other large euro-socialist countries (Canada, UK, etc) with national healthcare to see how poor their care is compared to ours. As to the cost, there are numerous studies out there that show the cost of national healthcare (with service at the level we have traditionally had) to be about an additional $1.5T per year.
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You say that, but offer no proof.
Look at the VA...........
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ip_law-hokie wrote:
133743Hokie wrote: Again, single layer would be more expensive and a worse healthcare experience, so definitely not better
You say that, but offer no proof.
That onus is on you.

Luckily, we don't even need to go that far because providing health care is not a role of government.
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HokieHam wrote:
You say that, but offer no proof.
Look at the VA...........
That’s a good example. We have multiple government entities acting as separate entities, reducing their ability to exert price control.


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ip_law-hokie wrote:
HokieHam wrote:
You say that, but offer no proof.
Look at the VA...........
That’s a good example. We have multiple government entities acting as separate entities, reducing their ability to exert price control.


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No we don't.

Also, prescription drug prices is a gnat on the ass of the the elephant that is healthcare.
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Re: Single payer

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ip_law-hokie wrote:
HokieHam wrote:
You say that, but offer no proof.
Look at the VA...........
That’s a good example. We have multiple government entities acting as separate entities, reducing their ability to exert price control.


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Or provide quality care at a reasonable cost
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Re: Single payer

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133743Hokie wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
HokieHam wrote:
You say that, but offer no proof.
Look at the VA...........
That’s a good example. We have multiple government entities acting as separate entities, reducing their ability to exert price control.


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Or provide quality care at a reasonable cost
You have literally jackhammer that point into his head. It’s quality care..........period.
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