This is what THE Unusual doesn’t understand. You give the leftists and inch......they will ALWAYS go the mile.....right over the cliff. It’s all emotional argumentation.133743Hokie wrote:Ok. You've singled out the AR-15. It "looks scary", militaristic, and is semi-automatic. Fair enough. But a majority of handguns are semi-automatic as well. They have clips that can be easily carried and quickly changed out too. So why just AR-15s? What is the logic or rationale for just stopping there? And if you decide to extrapolate out to other similar weapons, where does it end, and are you now seriously infringing on the 2A?nolanvt wrote:I was already in favor of banning AR-15s, which is what the killer used in this attack and what has been used in other mass shootings - there’s a reason the AR-15 is popular with mass shooters. While I support the 2A, I believe there should be reasonable exceptions on what type of weapons that civilians should be allowed to own. Now, that won’t prevent every single shooting event (nobody is arguing that and to counter argue that is silly), but banning certain assault weapons will reduce the number of deaths IMO.133743Hokie wrote:Please elaborate on what gun law change you propose that would have prevented the school shooting?nolanvt wrote:Maybe they should only ask for thoughts and prayers. Those have done a great job of stopping these things so far.HokieHam wrote:Emotional arguments. Typical
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You made sarcastic remarks about the usefulness of prayer....then said that telling people not to offer prayer was "weird and dickhead-ish."nolanvt wrote:I’m not sure how this makes sense. I didn’t reference any personal tragedies of mine. I was referring to those type of circumstances.. oh, excrement, it’s USN. He’s being purposefully being obtuse.USN_Hokie wrote:So you were just being an ignorant dickhead earlier?nolanvt wrote:I no longer ask for thoughts and prayers for myself. I don’t think I would make it a point to tell people not to offer them as well - that would just be weird and dickhead-ish.UpstateSCHokie wrote:The next time you face a personal tragedy or hardship, please be sure to tell everyone you know to NOT send any thoughts or prayers. You apparently think its just a waste of time and effort, so I'm sure you'll be the one atheist in the fox hole.nolanvt wrote:
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Wow. This really seems to have hit a nerve with the soccer Mom crowd on my Facebook. You guys might want to get nervous.
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Naw. The soccer mom crowd supposedly supported your girl.ip_law-hokie wrote:Wow. This really seems to have hit a nerve with the soccer Mom crowd on my Facebook. You guys might want to get nervous.
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ip_law-hokie wrote:Having your school shot up can be tough. What’s great is that these kid’s opinions carries as much weight as yours.HokieHam wrote:Emotional arguments. Typical
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The mall accountant for H&R Block can only enter data, has no idea what happens after that.UpstateSCHokie wrote:nolanvt wrote:I’d rather have fewer people die when someone decides to kill people.UpstateSCHokie wrote:Do tell, what is it about the AR-15 that makes it so bad? If we just changed the name to "the gay defender," would it then be cool with you? Could we keep it legal? I'd like to hear you explain to us what makes you so scared of an AR-15.nolanvt wrote:I was already in favor of banning AR-15s, which is what the killer used in this attack and what has been used in other mass shootings - there’s a reason the AR-15 is popular with mass shooters. While I support the 2A, I believe there should be reasonable exceptions on what type of weapons that civilians should be allowed to own. Now, that won’t prevent every single shooting event (nobody is arguing that and to counter argue that is silly), but banning certain assault weapons will reduce the number of deaths IMO.133743Hokie wrote:Please elaborate on what gun law change you propose that would have prevented the school shooting?nolanvt wrote: Maybe they should only ask for thoughts and prayers. Those have done a great job of stopping these things so far.
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Why are you not answering the question? Tell us what scares you about AR-15s.
You think that if AR-15's were banned, that the kid (or any other evil MFer) would just say "well damn, I was going to kill a bunch of people but since the AR-15 is now outlawed, I guess I'll just stay home?"
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Everything you post is silly, especially going after the least used weapon because it makes your vagina weep.nolanvt wrote:I never argued all gun violence would stop. If that’s your counter, you are arguing against the idea of laws. Bank robbers still rob banks, so why not remove laws against it? See how silly that sounds?UpstateSCHokie wrote:nolanvt wrote:I’d rather have fewer people die when someone decides to kill people.UpstateSCHokie wrote:Do tell, what is it about the AR-15 that makes it so bad? If we just changed the name to "the gay defender," would it then be cool with you? Could we keep it legal? I'd like to hear you explain to us what makes you so scared of an AR-15.nolanvt wrote:I was already in favor of banning AR-15s, which is what the killer used in this attack and what has been used in other mass shootings - there’s a reason the AR-15 is popular with mass shooters. While I support the 2A, I believe there should be reasonable exceptions on what type of weapons that civilians should be allowed to own. Now, that won’t prevent every single shooting event (nobody is arguing that and to counter argue that is silly), but banning certain assault weapons will reduce the number of deaths IMO.133743Hokie wrote: Please elaborate on what gun law change you propose that would have prevented the school shooting?
But maybe we should stick with thoughts and prayers, or maybe even award medals to children who go to school and survive. I dunno.
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Why are you not answering the question? Tell us what scares you about AR-15s.
You think that if AR-15's were banned, that the kid (or any other evil MFer) would just say "well damn, I was going to kill a bunch of people but since the AR-15 is now outlawed, I guess I'll just stay home?"
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I pray God cures his broken brain.HokieHam wrote:This is what THE Unusual doesn’t understand. You give the leftists and inch......they will ALWAYS go the mile.....right over the cliff. It’s all emotional argumentation.133743Hokie wrote:Ok. You've singled out the AR-15. It "looks scary", militaristic, and is semi-automatic. Fair enough. But a majority of handguns are semi-automatic as well. They have clips that can be easily carried and quickly changed out too. So why just AR-15s? What is the logic or rationale for just stopping there? And if you decide to extrapolate out to other similar weapons, where does it end, and are you now seriously infringing on the 2A?nolanvt wrote:I was already in favor of banning AR-15s, which is what the killer used in this attack and what has been used in other mass shootings - there’s a reason the AR-15 is popular with mass shooters. While I support the 2A, I believe there should be reasonable exceptions on what type of weapons that civilians should be allowed to own. Now, that won’t prevent every single shooting event (nobody is arguing that and to counter argue that is silly), but banning certain assault weapons will reduce the number of deaths IMO.133743Hokie wrote:Please elaborate on what gun law change you propose that would have prevented the school shooting?nolanvt wrote:Maybe they should only ask for thoughts and prayers. Those have done a great job of stopping these things so far.HokieHam wrote:Emotional arguments. Typical
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Good luck going forward.HokieHam wrote:Naw. The soccer mom crowd supposedly supported your girl.ip_law-hokie wrote:Wow. This really seems to have hit a nerve with the soccer Mom crowd on my Facebook. You guys might want to get nervous.
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An unwillingness to devote time to sensitive, insecure people with predisposed, redneck dispositions suggests that his time is more valuable than your average “mall accountant,” whatever TF that is.awesome guy wrote:The mall accountant for H&R Block can only enter data, has no idea what happens after that.UpstateSCHokie wrote:nolanvt wrote:I’d rather have fewer people die when someone decides to kill people.UpstateSCHokie wrote:Do tell, what is it about the AR-15 that makes it so bad? If we just changed the name to "the gay defender," would it then be cool with you? Could we keep it legal? I'd like to hear you explain to us what makes you so scared of an AR-15.nolanvt wrote:I was already in favor of banning AR-15s, which is what the killer used in this attack and what has been used in other mass shootings - there’s a reason the AR-15 is popular with mass shooters. While I support the 2A, I believe there should be reasonable exceptions on what type of weapons that civilians should be allowed to own. Now, that won’t prevent every single shooting event (nobody is arguing that and to counter argue that is silly), but banning certain assault weapons will reduce the number of deaths IMO.133743Hokie wrote: Please elaborate on what gun law change you propose that would have prevented the school shooting?
But maybe we should stick with thoughts and prayers, or maybe even award medals to children who go to school and survive. I dunno.
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Why are you not answering the question? Tell us what scares you about AR-15s.
You think that if AR-15's were banned, that the kid (or any other evil MFer) would just say "well damn, I was going to kill a bunch of people but since the AR-15 is now outlawed, I guess I'll just stay home?"
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Ah, more sanctimonious bullsh!t I see. What it actually reveals (rather than 'suggests') is that he has no well thought-out argument here. He's just spewing the emotional Democrat party line.ip_law-hokie wrote: An unwillingness to devote time to sensitive, insecure people with predisposed, redneck dispositions suggests that his time is more valuable than your average “mall accountant,” whatever TF that is.
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"If we could just outlaw AR-15s, the world would be a better place...until we figure out what the next scary looking gun is we need to outlaw."
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Nah, it shows he's stupid AF. How does your meandering and weak snipe apply to yourself?ip_law-hokie wrote:An unwillingness to devote time to sensitive, insecure people with predisposed, redneck dispositions suggests that his time is more valuable than your average “mall accountant,” whatever TF that is.awesome guy wrote:The mall accountant for H&R Block can only enter data, has no idea what happens after that.UpstateSCHokie wrote:nolanvt wrote:I’d rather have fewer people die when someone decides to kill people.UpstateSCHokie wrote:Do tell, what is it about the AR-15 that makes it so bad? If we just changed the name to "the gay defender," would it then be cool with you? Could we keep it legal? I'd like to hear you explain to us what makes you so scared of an AR-15.nolanvt wrote: I was already in favor of banning AR-15s, which is what the killer used in this attack and what has been used in other mass shootings - there’s a reason the AR-15 is popular with mass shooters. While I support the 2A, I believe there should be reasonable exceptions on what type of weapons that civilians should be allowed to own. Now, that won’t prevent every single shooting event (nobody is arguing that and to counter argue that is silly), but banning certain assault weapons will reduce the number of deaths IMO.
But maybe we should stick with thoughts and prayers, or maybe even award medals to children who go to school and survive. I dunno.
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Why are you not answering the question? Tell us what scares you about AR-15s.
You think that if AR-15's were banned, that the kid (or any other evil MFer) would just say "well damn, I was going to kill a bunch of people but since the AR-15 is now outlawed, I guess I'll just stay home?"
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OK.UpstateSCHokie wrote:Ah, more sanctimonious bullsh!t I see. What it actually reveals (rather than 'suggests') is that he has no well thought-out argument here. He's just spewing the emotional Democrat party line.ip_law-hokie wrote: An unwillingness to devote time to sensitive, insecure people with predisposed, redneck dispositions suggests that his time is more valuable than your average “mall accountant,” whatever TF that is.
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I’m OK with banning both.Major Kong wrote:Like I posted in another thread.
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Shouldn't your ignorance exclude you from having an opinion?ip_law-hokie wrote:I’m OK with banning both.Major Kong wrote:Like I posted in another thread.
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You asked a very emotional question, why not ask for facts?UpstateSCHokie wrote:Ah, more sanctimonious bullsh!t I see. What it actually reveals (rather than 'suggests') is that he has no well thought-out argument here. He's just spewing the emotional Democrat party line.ip_law-hokie wrote: An unwillingness to devote time to sensitive, insecure people with predisposed, redneck dispositions suggests that his time is more valuable than your average “mall accountant,” whatever TF that is.
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"If we could just outlaw AR-15s, the world would be a better place...until we figure out what the next scary looking gun is we need to outlaw."
Here are 3 potential answers.
1) The destructive power of an AR15 is greater than that of a handgun. The velocity is 3x (or so) that of a normal handgun, so when it hits a bone or an organ, it destroys it. Not the case with a typical handgun.
2) AR15 and high capacity. If you have a 30 or 60 round magazine vs something like a 10 round magazine, that’s a lot less reloading. Not sure how long it takes an average person to change out a magazine, but if people are running away from you, that’s meaningful time.
3) Range. AR15 has a longer range than a handgun, so that area that can be covered by an AR15 is significantly larger than a handgun.
Thoughts?
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I disagree that banning AR-15s is infringing on the 2A.133743Hokie wrote:Ok. You've singled out the AR-15. It "looks scary", militaristic, and is semi-automatic. Fair enough. But a majority of handguns are semi-automatic as well. They have clips that can be easily carried and quickly changed out too. So why just AR-15s? What is the logic or rationale for just stopping there? And if you decide to extrapolate out to other similar weapons, where does it end, and are you now seriously infringing on the 2A?nolanvt wrote:I was already in favor of banning AR-15s, which is what the killer used in this attack and what has been used in other mass shootings - there’s a reason the AR-15 is popular with mass shooters. While I support the 2A, I believe there should be reasonable exceptions on what type of weapons that civilians should be allowed to own. Now, that won’t prevent every single shooting event (nobody is arguing that and to counter argue that is silly), but banning certain assault weapons will reduce the number of deaths IMO.133743Hokie wrote:Please elaborate on what gun law change you propose that would have prevented the school shooting?nolanvt wrote:Maybe they should only ask for thoughts and prayers. Those have done a great job of stopping these things so far.HokieHam wrote:Emotional arguments. Typical
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LOL, all bullshit minus range.HokieFanDC wrote:You asked a very emotional question, why not ask for facts?UpstateSCHokie wrote:Ah, more sanctimonious bullsh!t I see. What it actually reveals (rather than 'suggests') is that he has no well thought-out argument here. He's just spewing the emotional Democrat party line.ip_law-hokie wrote: An unwillingness to devote time to sensitive, insecure people with predisposed, redneck dispositions suggests that his time is more valuable than your average “mall accountant,” whatever TF that is.
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"If we could just outlaw AR-15s, the world would be a better place...until we figure out what the next scary looking gun is we need to outlaw."
Here are 3 potential answers.
1) The destructive power of an AR15 is greater than that of a handgun. The velocity is 3x (or so) that of a normal handgun, so when it hits a bone or an organ, it destroys it. Not the case with a typical handgun.
2) AR15 and high capacity. If you have a 30 or 60 round magazine vs something like a 10 round magazine, that’s a lot less reloading. Not sure how long it takes an average person to change out a magazine, but if people are running away from you, that’s meaningful time.
3) Range. AR15 has a longer range than a handgun, so that area that can be covered by an AR15 is significantly larger than a handgun.
Thoughts?
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Well that settles it then, AR 15s scare Nolan so ban them.nolanvt wrote:I disagree that banning AR-15s is infringing on the 2A.133743Hokie wrote:Ok. You've singled out the AR-15. It "looks scary", militaristic, and is semi-automatic. Fair enough. But a majority of handguns are semi-automatic as well. They have clips that can be easily carried and quickly changed out too. So why just AR-15s? What is the logic or rationale for just stopping there? And if you decide to extrapolate out to other similar weapons, where does it end, and are you now seriously infringing on the 2A?nolanvt wrote:I was already in favor of banning AR-15s, which is what the killer used in this attack and what has been used in other mass shootings - there’s a reason the AR-15 is popular with mass shooters. While I support the 2A, I believe there should be reasonable exceptions on what type of weapons that civilians should be allowed to own. Now, that won’t prevent every single shooting event (nobody is arguing that and to counter argue that is silly), but banning certain assault weapons will reduce the number of deaths IMO.133743Hokie wrote:Please elaborate on what gun law change you propose that would have prevented the school shooting?nolanvt wrote:Maybe they should only ask for thoughts and prayers. Those have done a great job of stopping these things so far.HokieHam wrote:Emotional arguments. Typical
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Prayer is basically useless to me, yes. But, if I suffer a tragedy and someone offers me prayers, I’m not going to tell them not to. I treat it as a gesture.USN_Hokie wrote:You made sarcastic remarks about the usefulness of prayer....then said that telling people not to offer prayer was "weird and dickhead-ish."nolanvt wrote:I’m not sure how this makes sense. I didn’t reference any personal tragedies of mine. I was referring to those type of circumstances.. oh, excrement, it’s USN. He’s being purposefully being obtuse.USN_Hokie wrote:So you were just being an ignorant dickhead earlier?nolanvt wrote:I no longer ask for thoughts and prayers for myself. I don’t think I would make it a point to tell people not to offer them as well - that would just be weird and dickhead-ish.UpstateSCHokie wrote:The next time you face a personal tragedy or hardship, please be sure to tell everyone you know to NOT send any thoughts or prayers. You apparently think its just a waste of time and effort, so I'm sure you'll be the one atheist in the fox hole.nolanvt wrote:
Thoughts and prayers will stop those bullets next time. [emoji106]
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Not a bad dig, but I don’t practice tax.awesome guy wrote:The mall accountant for H&R Block can only enter data, has no idea what happens after that.UpstateSCHokie wrote:nolanvt wrote:I’d rather have fewer people die when someone decides to kill people.UpstateSCHokie wrote:Do tell, what is it about the AR-15 that makes it so bad? If we just changed the name to "the gay defender," would it then be cool with you? Could we keep it legal? I'd like to hear you explain to us what makes you so scared of an AR-15.nolanvt wrote:I was already in favor of banning AR-15s, which is what the killer used in this attack and what has been used in other mass shootings - there’s a reason the AR-15 is popular with mass shooters. While I support the 2A, I believe there should be reasonable exceptions on what type of weapons that civilians should be allowed to own. Now, that won’t prevent every single shooting event (nobody is arguing that and to counter argue that is silly), but banning certain assault weapons will reduce the number of deaths IMO.133743Hokie wrote: Please elaborate on what gun law change you propose that would have prevented the school shooting?
But maybe we should stick with thoughts and prayers, or maybe even award medals to children who go to school and survive. I dunno.
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Why are you not answering the question? Tell us what scares you about AR-15s.
You think that if AR-15's were banned, that the kid (or any other evil MFer) would just say "well damn, I was going to kill a bunch of people but since the AR-15 is now outlawed, I guess I'll just stay home?"
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I’m more concerned with the impact it can make per gun event than the number of events it’s been involved in.awesome guy wrote:Everything you post is silly, especially going after the least used weapon because it makes your vagina weep.nolanvt wrote:I never argued all gun violence would stop. If that’s your counter, you are arguing against the idea of laws. Bank robbers still rob banks, so why not remove laws against it? See how silly that sounds?UpstateSCHokie wrote:nolanvt wrote:I’d rather have fewer people die when someone decides to kill people.UpstateSCHokie wrote:Do tell, what is it about the AR-15 that makes it so bad? If we just changed the name to "the gay defender," would it then be cool with you? Could we keep it legal? I'd like to hear you explain to us what makes you so scared of an AR-15.nolanvt wrote: I was already in favor of banning AR-15s, which is what the killer used in this attack and what has been used in other mass shootings - there’s a reason the AR-15 is popular with mass shooters. While I support the 2A, I believe there should be reasonable exceptions on what type of weapons that civilians should be allowed to own. Now, that won’t prevent every single shooting event (nobody is arguing that and to counter argue that is silly), but banning certain assault weapons will reduce the number of deaths IMO.
But maybe we should stick with thoughts and prayers, or maybe even award medals to children who go to school and survive. I dunno.
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Why are you not answering the question? Tell us what scares you about AR-15s.
You think that if AR-15's were banned, that the kid (or any other evil MFer) would just say "well damn, I was going to kill a bunch of people but since the AR-15 is now outlawed, I guess I'll just stay home?"
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Another retarded post. That's also bullshit.nolanvt wrote:I’m more concerned with the impact it can make per gun event than the number of events it’s been involved in.awesome guy wrote:Everything you post is silly, especially going after the least used weapon because it makes your vagina weep.nolanvt wrote:I never argued all gun violence would stop. If that’s your counter, you are arguing against the idea of laws. Bank robbers still rob banks, so why not remove laws against it? See how silly that sounds?UpstateSCHokie wrote:nolanvt wrote:I’d rather have fewer people die when someone decides to kill people.UpstateSCHokie wrote: Do tell, what is it about the AR-15 that makes it so bad? If we just changed the name to "the gay defender," would it then be cool with you? Could we keep it legal? I'd like to hear you explain to us what makes you so scared of an AR-15.
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Why are you not answering the question? Tell us what scares you about AR-15s.
You think that if AR-15's were banned, that the kid (or any other evil MFer) would just say "well damn, I was going to kill a bunch of people but since the AR-15 is now outlawed, I guess I'll just stay home?"
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Re: Good to see the kids stand up
Is that the purpose of the prayers?nolanvt wrote:Maybe they should only ask for thoughts and prayers. Those have done a great job of stopping these things so far.HokieHam wrote:Emotional arguments. Typical
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So I put (the dead dog) on her doorstep!
Salute the Marines
Soon we'll have planes that fly 22000 mph
"#PedoPete" = Hunter's name for his dad.
Salute the Marines
Soon we'll have planes that fly 22000 mph
"#PedoPete" = Hunter's name for his dad.