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133743Hokie wrote:

nolanvt wrote:

133743Hokie wrote:

nolanvt wrote:

HokieHam wrote:Emotional arguments. Typical

Maybe they should only ask for thoughts and prayers. Those have done a great job of stopping these things so far.


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Please elaborate on what gun law change you propose that would have prevented the school shooting?

I was already in favor of banning AR-15s, which is what the killer used in this attack and what has been used in other mass shootings - there’s a reason the AR-15 is popular with mass shooters. While I support the 2A, I believe there should be reasonable exceptions on what type of weapons that civilians should be allowed to own. Now, that won’t prevent every single shooting event (nobody is arguing that and to counter argue that is silly), but banning certain assault weapons will reduce the number of deaths IMO.

But maybe we should stick with thoughts and prayers, or maybe even award medals to children who go to school and survive. I dunno.


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Ok. You've singled out the AR-15. It "looks scary", militaristic, and is semi-automatic. Fair enough. But a majority of handguns are semi-automatic as well. They have clips that can be easily carried and quickly changed out too. So why just AR-15s? What is the logic or rationale for just stopping there? And if you decide to extrapolate out to other similar weapons, where does it end, and are you now seriously infringing on the 2A?

This is what THE Unusual doesn’t understand. You give the leftists and inch......they will ALWAYS go the mile.....right over the cliff. It’s all emotional argumentation.

nolanvt wrote:

USN_Hokie wrote:

nolanvt wrote:

UpstateSCHokie wrote:

nolanvt wrote:
Thoughts and prayers will stop those bullets next time. [emoji106]


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The next time you face a personal tragedy or hardship, please be sure to tell everyone you know to NOT send any thoughts or prayers. You apparently think its just a waste of time and effort, so I'm sure you'll be the one atheist in the fox hole.

I no longer ask for thoughts and prayers for myself. I don’t think I would make it a point to tell people not to offer them as well - that would just be weird and dickhead-ish.


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So you were just being an ignorant dickhead earlier?

I’m not sure how this makes sense. I didn’t reference any personal tragedies of mine. I was referring to those type of circumstances.. oh, excrement, it’s USN. He’s being purposefully being obtuse.


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You made sarcastic remarks about the usefulness of prayer....then said that telling people not to offer prayer was "weird and dickhead-ish."

Maybe you should just say you didn't understand what you were writing.

Wow. This really seems to have hit a nerve with the soccer Mom crowd on my Facebook. You guys might want to get nervous.


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ip_law-hokie wrote:Wow. This really seems to have hit a nerve with the soccer Mom crowd on my Facebook. You guys might want to get nervous.


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Naw. The soccer mom crowd supposedly supported your girl.

ip_law-hokie wrote:

HokieHam wrote:Emotional arguments. Typical

Having your school shot up can be tough. What’s great is that these kid’s opinions carries as much weight as yours.






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UpstateSCHokie wrote:

nolanvt wrote:

UpstateSCHokie wrote:

nolanvt wrote:

133743Hokie wrote:

nolanvt wrote: Maybe they should only ask for thoughts and prayers. Those have done a great job of stopping these things so far.


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Please elaborate on what gun law change you propose that would have prevented the school shooting?

I was already in favor of banning AR-15s, which is what the killer used in this attack and what has been used in other mass shootings - there’s a reason the AR-15 is popular with mass shooters. While I support the 2A, I believe there should be reasonable exceptions on what type of weapons that civilians should be allowed to own. Now, that won’t prevent every single shooting event (nobody is arguing that and to counter argue that is silly), but banning certain assault weapons will reduce the number of deaths IMO.

But maybe we should stick with thoughts and prayers, or maybe even award medals to children who go to school and survive. I dunno.


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Do tell, what is it about the AR-15 that makes it so bad? If we just changed the name to "the gay defender," would it then be cool with you? Could we keep it legal? I'd like to hear you explain to us what makes you so scared of an AR-15.

I’d rather have fewer people die when someone decides to kill people.


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Why are you not answering the question? Tell us what scares you about AR-15s.

You think that if AR-15's were banned, that the kid (or any other evil MFer) would just say "well damn, I was going to kill a bunch of people but since the AR-15 is now outlawed, I guess I'll just stay home?"

The mall accountant for H&R Block can only enter data, has no idea what happens after that.

nolanvt wrote:

UpstateSCHokie wrote:

nolanvt wrote:

UpstateSCHokie wrote:

nolanvt wrote:

133743Hokie wrote: Please elaborate on what gun law change you propose that would have prevented the school shooting?

I was already in favor of banning AR-15s, which is what the killer used in this attack and what has been used in other mass shootings - there’s a reason the AR-15 is popular with mass shooters. While I support the 2A, I believe there should be reasonable exceptions on what type of weapons that civilians should be allowed to own. Now, that won’t prevent every single shooting event (nobody is arguing that and to counter argue that is silly), but banning certain assault weapons will reduce the number of deaths IMO.

But maybe we should stick with thoughts and prayers, or maybe even award medals to children who go to school and survive. I dunno.


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Do tell, what is it about the AR-15 that makes it so bad? If we just changed the name to "the gay defender," would it then be cool with you? Could we keep it legal? I'd like to hear you explain to us what makes you so scared of an AR-15.

I’d rather have fewer people die when someone decides to kill people.


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Why are you not answering the question? Tell us what scares you about AR-15s.

You think that if AR-15's were banned, that the kid (or any other evil MFer) would just say "well damn, I was going to kill a bunch of people but since the AR-15 is now outlawed, I guess I'll just stay home?"

I never argued all gun violence would stop. If that’s your counter, you are arguing against the idea of laws. Bank robbers still rob banks, so why not remove laws against it? See how silly that sounds?


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Everything you post is silly, especially going after the least used weapon because it makes your vagina weep.

HokieHam wrote:

133743Hokie wrote:

nolanvt wrote:

133743Hokie wrote:

nolanvt wrote:

HokieHam wrote:Emotional arguments. Typical

Maybe they should only ask for thoughts and prayers. Those have done a great job of stopping these things so far.


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Please elaborate on what gun law change you propose that would have prevented the school shooting?

I was already in favor of banning AR-15s, which is what the killer used in this attack and what has been used in other mass shootings - there’s a reason the AR-15 is popular with mass shooters. While I support the 2A, I believe there should be reasonable exceptions on what type of weapons that civilians should be allowed to own. Now, that won’t prevent every single shooting event (nobody is arguing that and to counter argue that is silly), but banning certain assault weapons will reduce the number of deaths IMO.

But maybe we should stick with thoughts and prayers, or maybe even award medals to children who go to school and survive. I dunno.


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Ok. You've singled out the AR-15. It "looks scary", militaristic, and is semi-automatic. Fair enough. But a majority of handguns are semi-automatic as well. They have clips that can be easily carried and quickly changed out too. So why just AR-15s? What is the logic or rationale for just stopping there? And if you decide to extrapolate out to other similar weapons, where does it end, and are you now seriously infringing on the 2A?

This is what THE Unusual doesn’t understand. You give the leftists and inch......they will ALWAYS go the mile.....right over the cliff. It’s all emotional argumentation.

I pray God cures his broken brain.

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ip_law-hokie wrote:Wow. This really seems to have hit a nerve with the soccer Mom crowd on my Facebook. You guys might want to get nervous.


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Naw. The soccer mom crowd supposedly supported your girl.

Good luck going forward.


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UpstateSCHokie wrote:

nolanvt wrote:

UpstateSCHokie wrote:

nolanvt wrote:

133743Hokie wrote: Please elaborate on what gun law change you propose that would have prevented the school shooting?

I was already in favor of banning AR-15s, which is what the killer used in this attack and what has been used in other mass shootings - there’s a reason the AR-15 is popular with mass shooters. While I support the 2A, I believe there should be reasonable exceptions on what type of weapons that civilians should be allowed to own. Now, that won’t prevent every single shooting event (nobody is arguing that and to counter argue that is silly), but banning certain assault weapons will reduce the number of deaths IMO.

But maybe we should stick with thoughts and prayers, or maybe even award medals to children who go to school and survive. I dunno.


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Do tell, what is it about the AR-15 that makes it so bad? If we just changed the name to "the gay defender," would it then be cool with you? Could we keep it legal? I'd like to hear you explain to us what makes you so scared of an AR-15.

I’d rather have fewer people die when someone decides to kill people.


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Why are you not answering the question? Tell us what scares you about AR-15s.

You think that if AR-15's were banned, that the kid (or any other evil MFer) would just say "well damn, I was going to kill a bunch of people but since the AR-15 is now outlawed, I guess I'll just stay home?"

The mall accountant for H&R Block can only enter data, has no idea what happens after that.

An unwillingness to devote time to sensitive, insecure people with predisposed, redneck dispositions suggests that his time is more valuable than your average “mall accountant,” whatever TF that is.


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ip_law-hokie wrote: An unwillingness to devote time to sensitive, insecure people with predisposed, redneck dispositions suggests that his time is more valuable than your average “mall accountant,” whatever TF that is.


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Ah, more sanctimonious bullsh!t I see. What it actually reveals (rather than 'suggests') is that he has no well thought-out argument here. He's just spewing the emotional Democrat party line.

"If we could just outlaw AR-15s, the world would be a better place...until we figure out what the next scary looking gun is we need to outlaw."

ip_law-hokie wrote:

awesome guy wrote:

UpstateSCHokie wrote:

nolanvt wrote:

UpstateSCHokie wrote:

nolanvt wrote: I was already in favor of banning AR-15s, which is what the killer used in this attack and what has been used in other mass shootings - there’s a reason the AR-15 is popular with mass shooters. While I support the 2A, I believe there should be reasonable exceptions on what type of weapons that civilians should be allowed to own. Now, that won’t prevent every single shooting event (nobody is arguing that and to counter argue that is silly), but banning certain assault weapons will reduce the number of deaths IMO.

But maybe we should stick with thoughts and prayers, or maybe even award medals to children who go to school and survive. I dunno.


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Do tell, what is it about the AR-15 that makes it so bad? If we just changed the name to "the gay defender," would it then be cool with you? Could we keep it legal? I'd like to hear you explain to us what makes you so scared of an AR-15.

I’d rather have fewer people die when someone decides to kill people.


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Why are you not answering the question? Tell us what scares you about AR-15s.

You think that if AR-15's were banned, that the kid (or any other evil MFer) would just say "well damn, I was going to kill a bunch of people but since the AR-15 is now outlawed, I guess I'll just stay home?"

The mall accountant for H&R Block can only enter data, has no idea what happens after that.

An unwillingness to devote time to sensitive, insecure people with predisposed, redneck dispositions suggests that his time is more valuable than your average “mall accountant,” whatever TF that is.


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Nah, it shows he's stupid AF. How does your meandering and weak snipe apply to yourself?

UpstateSCHokie wrote:

ip_law-hokie wrote: An unwillingness to devote time to sensitive, insecure people with predisposed, redneck dispositions suggests that his time is more valuable than your average “mall accountant,” whatever TF that is.


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Ah, more sanctimonious bullsh!t I see. What it actually reveals (rather than 'suggests') is that he has no well thought-out argument here. He's just spewing the emotional Democrat party line.

"If we could just outlaw AR-15s, the world would be a better place...until we figure out what the next scary looking gun is we need to outlaw."

OK.


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Like I posted in another thread.

Major Kong wrote:Like I posted in another thread.

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I’m OK with banning both.


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ip_law-hokie wrote:

Major Kong wrote:Like I posted in another thread.

Rugermini.jpg

I’m OK with banning both.


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Shouldn't your ignorance exclude you from having an opinion?

UpstateSCHokie wrote:

ip_law-hokie wrote: An unwillingness to devote time to sensitive, insecure people with predisposed, redneck dispositions suggests that his time is more valuable than your average “mall accountant,” whatever TF that is.


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Ah, more sanctimonious bullsh!t I see. What it actually reveals (rather than 'suggests') is that he has no well thought-out argument here. He's just spewing the emotional Democrat party line.

"If we could just outlaw AR-15s, the world would be a better place...until we figure out what the next scary looking gun is we need to outlaw."

You asked a very emotional question, why not ask for facts?

Here are 3 potential answers.

1) The destructive power of an AR15 is greater than that of a handgun. The velocity is 3x (or so) that of a normal handgun, so when it hits a bone or an organ, it destroys it. Not the case with a typical handgun.

2) AR15 and high capacity. If you have a 30 or 60 round magazine vs something like a 10 round magazine, that’s a lot less reloading. Not sure how long it takes an average person to change out a magazine, but if people are running away from you, that’s meaningful time.

3) Range. AR15 has a longer range than a handgun, so that area that can be covered by an AR15 is significantly larger than a handgun.

Thoughts?

133743Hokie wrote:

nolanvt wrote:

133743Hokie wrote:

nolanvt wrote:

HokieHam wrote:Emotional arguments. Typical

Maybe they should only ask for thoughts and prayers. Those have done a great job of stopping these things so far.


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Please elaborate on what gun law change you propose that would have prevented the school shooting?

I was already in favor of banning AR-15s, which is what the killer used in this attack and what has been used in other mass shootings - there’s a reason the AR-15 is popular with mass shooters. While I support the 2A, I believe there should be reasonable exceptions on what type of weapons that civilians should be allowed to own. Now, that won’t prevent every single shooting event (nobody is arguing that and to counter argue that is silly), but banning certain assault weapons will reduce the number of deaths IMO.

But maybe we should stick with thoughts and prayers, or maybe even award medals to children who go to school and survive. I dunno.


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Ok. You've singled out the AR-15. It "looks scary", militaristic, and is semi-automatic. Fair enough. But a majority of handguns are semi-automatic as well. They have clips that can be easily carried and quickly changed out too. So why just AR-15s? What is the logic or rationale for just stopping there? And if you decide to extrapolate out to other similar weapons, where does it end, and are you now seriously infringing on the 2A?

I disagree that banning AR-15s is infringing on the 2A.


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HokieFanDC wrote:

UpstateSCHokie wrote:

ip_law-hokie wrote: An unwillingness to devote time to sensitive, insecure people with predisposed, redneck dispositions suggests that his time is more valuable than your average “mall accountant,” whatever TF that is.


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Ah, more sanctimonious bullsh!t I see. What it actually reveals (rather than 'suggests') is that he has no well thought-out argument here. He's just spewing the emotional Democrat party line.

"If we could just outlaw AR-15s, the world would be a better place...until we figure out what the next scary looking gun is we need to outlaw."

You asked a very emotional question, why not ask for facts?

Here are 3 potential answers.

1) The destructive power of an AR15 is greater than that of a handgun. The velocity is 3x (or so) that of a normal handgun, so when it hits a bone or an organ, it destroys it. Not the case with a typical handgun.

2) AR15 and high capacity. If you have a 30 or 60 round magazine vs something like a 10 round magazine, that’s a lot less reloading. Not sure how long it takes an average person to change out a magazine, but if people are running away from you, that’s meaningful time.

3) Range. AR15 has a longer range than a handgun, so that area that can be covered by an AR15 is significantly larger than a handgun.

Thoughts?

LOL, all bullshit minus range.

nolanvt wrote:

133743Hokie wrote:

nolanvt wrote:

133743Hokie wrote:

nolanvt wrote:

HokieHam wrote:Emotional arguments. Typical

Maybe they should only ask for thoughts and prayers. Those have done a great job of stopping these things so far.


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Please elaborate on what gun law change you propose that would have prevented the school shooting?

I was already in favor of banning AR-15s, which is what the killer used in this attack and what has been used in other mass shootings - there’s a reason the AR-15 is popular with mass shooters. While I support the 2A, I believe there should be reasonable exceptions on what type of weapons that civilians should be allowed to own. Now, that won’t prevent every single shooting event (nobody is arguing that and to counter argue that is silly), but banning certain assault weapons will reduce the number of deaths IMO.

But maybe we should stick with thoughts and prayers, or maybe even award medals to children who go to school and survive. I dunno.


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Ok. You've singled out the AR-15. It "looks scary", militaristic, and is semi-automatic. Fair enough. But a majority of handguns are semi-automatic as well. They have clips that can be easily carried and quickly changed out too. So why just AR-15s? What is the logic or rationale for just stopping there? And if you decide to extrapolate out to other similar weapons, where does it end, and are you now seriously infringing on the 2A?

I disagree that banning AR-15s is infringing on the 2A.


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Well that settles it then, AR 15s scare Nolan so ban them.

USN_Hokie wrote:

nolanvt wrote:

USN_Hokie wrote:

nolanvt wrote:

UpstateSCHokie wrote:

nolanvt wrote:
Thoughts and prayers will stop those bullets next time. [emoji106]


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The next time you face a personal tragedy or hardship, please be sure to tell everyone you know to NOT send any thoughts or prayers. You apparently think its just a waste of time and effort, so I'm sure you'll be the one atheist in the fox hole.

I no longer ask for thoughts and prayers for myself. I don’t think I would make it a point to tell people not to offer them as well - that would just be weird and dickhead-ish.


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So you were just being an ignorant dickhead earlier?

I’m not sure how this makes sense. I didn’t reference any personal tragedies of mine. I was referring to those type of circumstances.. oh, excrement, it’s USN. He’s being purposefully being obtuse.


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You made sarcastic remarks about the usefulness of prayer....then said that telling people not to offer prayer was "weird and dickhead-ish."

Maybe you should just say you didn't understand what you were writing.

Prayer is basically useless to me, yes. But, if I suffer a tragedy and someone offers me prayers, I’m not going to tell them not to. I treat it as a gesture.


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UpstateSCHokie wrote:

nolanvt wrote:

UpstateSCHokie wrote:

nolanvt wrote:

133743Hokie wrote: Please elaborate on what gun law change you propose that would have prevented the school shooting?

I was already in favor of banning AR-15s, which is what the killer used in this attack and what has been used in other mass shootings - there’s a reason the AR-15 is popular with mass shooters. While I support the 2A, I believe there should be reasonable exceptions on what type of weapons that civilians should be allowed to own. Now, that won’t prevent every single shooting event (nobody is arguing that and to counter argue that is silly), but banning certain assault weapons will reduce the number of deaths IMO.

But maybe we should stick with thoughts and prayers, or maybe even award medals to children who go to school and survive. I dunno.


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Do tell, what is it about the AR-15 that makes it so bad? If we just changed the name to "the gay defender," would it then be cool with you? Could we keep it legal? I'd like to hear you explain to us what makes you so scared of an AR-15.

I’d rather have fewer people die when someone decides to kill people.


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Why are you not answering the question? Tell us what scares you about AR-15s.

You think that if AR-15's were banned, that the kid (or any other evil MFer) would just say "well damn, I was going to kill a bunch of people but since the AR-15 is now outlawed, I guess I'll just stay home?"

The mall accountant for H&R Block can only enter data, has no idea what happens after that.

Not a bad dig, but I don’t practice tax.


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awesome guy wrote:

nolanvt wrote:

UpstateSCHokie wrote:

nolanvt wrote:

UpstateSCHokie wrote:

nolanvt wrote: I was already in favor of banning AR-15s, which is what the killer used in this attack and what has been used in other mass shootings - there’s a reason the AR-15 is popular with mass shooters. While I support the 2A, I believe there should be reasonable exceptions on what type of weapons that civilians should be allowed to own. Now, that won’t prevent every single shooting event (nobody is arguing that and to counter argue that is silly), but banning certain assault weapons will reduce the number of deaths IMO.

But maybe we should stick with thoughts and prayers, or maybe even award medals to children who go to school and survive. I dunno.


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Do tell, what is it about the AR-15 that makes it so bad? If we just changed the name to "the gay defender," would it then be cool with you? Could we keep it legal? I'd like to hear you explain to us what makes you so scared of an AR-15.

I’d rather have fewer people die when someone decides to kill people.


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Why are you not answering the question? Tell us what scares you about AR-15s.

You think that if AR-15's were banned, that the kid (or any other evil MFer) would just say "well damn, I was going to kill a bunch of people but since the AR-15 is now outlawed, I guess I'll just stay home?"

I never argued all gun violence would stop. If that’s your counter, you are arguing against the idea of laws. Bank robbers still rob banks, so why not remove laws against it? See how silly that sounds?


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Everything you post is silly, especially going after the least used weapon because it makes your vagina weep.

I’m more concerned with the impact it can make per gun event than the number of events it’s been involved in.


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nolanvt wrote:

awesome guy wrote:

nolanvt wrote:

UpstateSCHokie wrote:

nolanvt wrote:

UpstateSCHokie wrote: Do tell, what is it about the AR-15 that makes it so bad? If we just changed the name to "the gay defender," would it then be cool with you? Could we keep it legal? I'd like to hear you explain to us what makes you so scared of an AR-15.

I’d rather have fewer people die when someone decides to kill people.


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Why are you not answering the question? Tell us what scares you about AR-15s.

You think that if AR-15's were banned, that the kid (or any other evil MFer) would just say "well damn, I was going to kill a bunch of people but since the AR-15 is now outlawed, I guess I'll just stay home?"

I never argued all gun violence would stop. If that’s your counter, you are arguing against the idea of laws. Bank robbers still rob banks, so why not remove laws against it? See how silly that sounds?


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Everything you post is silly, especially going after the least used weapon because it makes your vagina weep.

I’m more concerned with the impact it can make per gun event than the number of events it’s been involved in.


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Another retarded post. That's also bullshit.

nolanvt wrote:

HokieHam wrote:Emotional arguments. Typical

Maybe they should only ask for thoughts and prayers. Those have done a great job of stopping these things so far.


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Is that the purpose of the prayers?