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Re: The best barbecue in your town is...

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:24 am
by awesome guy
awesome guy wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
awesome guy wrote:
awesome guy wrote:
RiverguyVT wrote:
awesome guy wrote:That's it, how ever you like barbeque is ok and where you go. Taste is an individual experience. But that stuff isn't winning competitions now.
But you like Q’s which isn’t any great shakes.
Can’t beat Buzz’s ribs in RVA...
Nope, you just can't judge it.
I'll go more into that, tenderness is objective. Perfectly tender q should dissolve in your mouth in 10 seconds. Faster than that and it's over cooked, longer and under cooked. Taste is subjective and personal. Appearance is both, should look clean and be only lettuce in the box with a mahogany color. Only time I really dock on that is if someone uses kale, which is a dq on appearances or pooling sauce, another dq. Qs nails these qualities better than others consistently. Especially their burnt ends, they're the best single item in Richmond. Back to crushing striper now, the river is really picking up tonight.
Only thing I'll say is that I've had dried out, disappointing barbecue (brisket...anyone can smoke a pork butt) from joints with trophies all over their walls before.
Qs is owned and operated by Tuffy Stone, the guy on Barbeque Pitt Masters. He's legit.
Buzz and Neds beat Bobby Flay on his Showdown show, they're no slouches either. I kinda lied above, the guy making the best barbeque in RVA is me! Haha, except chicken and brisket. I'd place with ribs and pulled pork. I haven't figured out a great brisket yet. But that's from me spending my time figuring out a great venison hind quarter. That could be Anything Butt categories, but isn't a standard meat in competition.

Re: The best barbecue in your town is...

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:25 am
by awesome guy
Vienna_Hokie wrote:....crap

probably Famous Dave's. I live in a food wasteland.
There's a place in Arlington that's decent.

Re: The best barbecue in your town is...

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:32 am
by Vienna_Hokie
awesome guy wrote:
Vienna_Hokie wrote:....crap

probably Famous Dave's. I live in a food wasteland.
There's a place in Arlington that's decent.
Haven't lived in Vienna in almost 10 years. I am in Iowa, where there is no decent seafood, pizza or barbecue. Pork chops and pork tenderloins are the only thing of note here.

Re: The best barbecue in your town is...

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:39 am
by ip_law-hokie
Vienna_Hokie wrote:....crap

probably Famous Dave's. I live in a food wasteland.
Jesus man.


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Re: The best barbecue in your town is...

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:42 am
by awesome guy
Vienna_Hokie wrote:
awesome guy wrote:
Vienna_Hokie wrote:....crap

probably Famous Dave's. I live in a food wasteland.
There's a place in Arlington that's decent.
Haven't lived in Vienna in almost 10 years. I am in Iowa, where there is no decent seafood, pizza or barbecue. Pork chops and pork tenderloins are the only thing of note here.
Join the Kansas City Barbeque Society. Then you can be a judge and invited to eat the best barbeque on the planet. You'll get about 2.5 pounds of cooked meat in a competition. I bring a cooler to hold the leftovers, but cheery picking does occur. The best stuff is consumed on site. And the worst stuff is typically better than any meal at a restaurant. Unless the cooks are complete noobs and do something stupid like using lighter fluid to start their fire.

Re: The best barbecue in your town is...

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:43 am
by awesome guy
ip_law-hokie wrote:
Vienna_Hokie wrote:....crap

probably Famous Dave's. I live in a food wasteland.
Jesus man.


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I got a 39 inch striper. NY can't hang with us.

Re: The best barbecue in your town is...

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:49 am
by USN_Hokie
awesome guy wrote:I haven't figured out a great brisket yet. But that's from me spending my time figuring out a great venison hind quarter. That could be Anything Butt categories, but isn't a standard meat in competition.
I know this is blasphemy / "not real BBQ" , but try sous vide'ing a brisket flat (I do 24hrs at 145, then 24hrs at 135, 48hrs total) with your dry rub of choice, then finish with a smoke (I've tried smoking first and it doesn't work for some reason) - or if you feel like being more blasphemous - use liquid smoke.

I've tried a whole brisket and there's not enough heat to render the point in my opinion. It's quite good - particularly when the weather isn't friendly for cooking outside.

Re: The best barbecue in your town is...

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:51 am
by awesome guy
USN_Hokie wrote:
awesome guy wrote:I haven't figured out a great brisket yet. But that's from me spending my time figuring out a great venison hind quarter. That could be Anything Butt categories, but isn't a standard meat in competition.
I know this is blasphemy / "not real BBQ" , but try sous vide'ing a brisket flat (I do 24hrs at 145, then 24hrs at 135, 48hrs total) with your dry rub of choice, then finish with a smoke (I've tried smoking first and it doesn't work for some reason) - or if you feel like being more blasphemous - use liquid smoke. I've tried a whole brisket and there's not enough heat to render the point in my opinion.
Yeah, not staining my barbeque soul with that unless I did it as corned beef.

Re: The best barbecue in your town is...

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:52 am
by USN_Hokie
ip_law-hokie wrote:
Vienna_Hokie wrote:....crap

probably Famous Dave's. I live in a food wasteland.
Jesus man.


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Famous Dave's is the Domino's of BBQ.

Re: The best barbecue in your town is...

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:53 am
by ip_law-hokie
awesome guy wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
Vienna_Hokie wrote:....crap

probably Famous Dave's. I live in a food wasteland.
Jesus man.


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I got a 39 inch striper. NY can't hang with us.
Got it.

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Re: The best barbecue in your town is...

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:57 am
by USN_Hokie
awesome guy wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
awesome guy wrote:I haven't figured out a great brisket yet. But that's from me spending my time figuring out a great venison hind quarter. That could be Anything Butt categories, but isn't a standard meat in competition.
I know this is blasphemy / "not real BBQ" , but try sous vide'ing a brisket flat (I do 24hrs at 145, then 24hrs at 135, 48hrs total) with your dry rub of choice, then finish with a smoke (I've tried smoking first and it doesn't work for some reason) - or if you feel like being more blasphemous - use liquid smoke. I've tried a whole brisket and there's not enough heat to render the point in my opinion.
Yeah, not staining my barbeque soul with that unless I did it as corned beef.
I'm telling you, tough cuts of meat is where sous vide shines. Short ribs, back ribs, brisket, chuck (pot roast), etc.

Re: The best barbecue in your town is...

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:57 am
by awesome guy
ip_law-hokie wrote:
awesome guy wrote:
ip_law-hokie wrote:
Vienna_Hokie wrote:....crap

probably Famous Dave's. I live in a food wasteland.
Jesus man.


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I got a 39 inch striper. NY can't hang with us.
Got it.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.angler ... ord-holder


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We can't weight ours like that as they're spawning and out of season. So they're fatter with eggs, but you're a poacher if you keep one to weigh. 90% of all stripers spawn in the Chesapeake and tributaries, so those same fish are here now, but fat with eggs and getting their freak on. We win, hands down. We're not even freezing or dealing with yankees to catch them.

Re: The best barbecue in your town is...

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:59 am
by awesome guy
USN_Hokie wrote:
awesome guy wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:
awesome guy wrote:I haven't figured out a great brisket yet. But that's from me spending my time figuring out a great venison hind quarter. That could be Anything Butt categories, but isn't a standard meat in competition.
I know this is blasphemy / "not real BBQ" , but try sous vide'ing a brisket flat (I do 24hrs at 145, then 24hrs at 135, 48hrs total) with your dry rub of choice, then finish with a smoke (I've tried smoking first and it doesn't work for some reason) - or if you feel like being more blasphemous - use liquid smoke. I've tried a whole brisket and there's not enough heat to render the point in my opinion.
Yeah, not staining my barbeque soul with that unless I did it as corned beef.
I'm telling you, tough cuts of meat is where sous vide shines. Short ribs, back ribs, brisket, chuck (pot roast), etc.
I don't doubt that as it's breaking down fibers in the slow cook. I'm still not calling that barbeque or passing it off as such. Will likely try it though.

Re: The best barbecue in your town is...

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:19 am
by RiverguyVT
TD’s??!! They’re great.

Q’s!?

LOL...credibility lost


Buzz & Neds
Hands down.

Re: The best barbecue in your town is...

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:31 am
by awesome guy
RiverguyVT wrote:TD’s??!! They’re great.

Q’s!?

LOL...credibility lost


Buzz & Neds
Hands down.
Yeah, your credibility is lost. I'm a barbeque eating and judging machine!

Re: The best barbecue in your town is...

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:38 am
by UpstateSCHokie
I live in one of the Carolina's so pork BBQ is the only BBQ. Beef BBQ is sacrilege here.

We have several local places that have great pulled pork, but the sauces are what differentiates these places. For me, the best local place for both the meat and the sauce is Charlies BBQ.

Re: The best barbecue in your town is...

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:12 am
by 133743Hokie
awesome guy wrote:Q's is better in my opinion
Qs, Buzz and Ned's, Alexander's, Extra Billy's are all good. Would eat Pierce's when I travelled that way on business.

Re: The best barbecue in your town is...

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:14 am
by 133743Hokie
RiverguyVT wrote:
awesome guy wrote:
Jack Galt wrote:
HooFighter wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:...and balance is restored to the universe.
I suppose you only feel really complete when you are able to find something that allows you to hate on the libs.
Haters gonna hate. IIWII. It's not the best BBQ I've had, but it's close by and pretty good. I know folks who go there every time they come to town.
That's it, how ever you like barbeque is ok and where you go. Taste is an individual experience. But that stuff isn't winning competitions now.
But you like Q’s which isn’t any great shakes.
Can’t beat Buzz’s ribs in RVA...
Qs ribs actually may be better

Re: The best barbecue in your town is...

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:18 am
by CFB Apologist
Mine... easily. I live in Columbia, Md. My competition is Famous Daves and Mission BBQ. My que blows them away!

Re: The best barbecue in your town is...

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:45 am
by USN_Hokie
CFB Apologist wrote:Mine... easily. I live in Columbia, Md. My competition is Famous Daves and Mission BBQ. My que blows them away!
It's not "real" BBQ per se (I don't think they cook stuff on site), but Mission BBQ is consistent (something a lot of BBQ places lack) and great for what it is. I'm on a low carb kick, so I'll stop by the one near me and just get a half pound of brisket.

Also love that they do the national anthem every day at noon - you know you're safe from associating with HooFighter types [*imagery of vampire recoiling from sunlight*] during lunch. :mrgreen:

Re: The best barbecue in your town is...

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:35 pm
by HooFighter
It must pain you greatly to know there are people like me who enjoy eating red meat and drinking brown liquor.

Re: The best barbecue in your town is...

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:42 pm
by USN_Hokie
HooFighter wrote:It must pain you greatly to know there are people like me who enjoy eating red meat and drinking brown liquor.
On the contrary - having you around as the butt of my jokes brings joy to my participation on UWS.

Re: The best barbecue in your town is...

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:49 pm
by awesome guy
HooFighter wrote:It must pain you greatly to know there are people like me who enjoy eating red meat and drinking brown liquor.
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Re: The best barbecue in your town is...

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:21 pm
by BigDave
USN_Hokie wrote:I'll admit, Hampton Roads has crap for BBQ options.
There isn't much good here ... it's not like going to ECU or the Triangle where every restaurant that serves barbecue has to be amazing or they go out of business ... but we have a few decent places. There are also a number of restaurants I have never tried, but want to (Carolina Son, Jakes, Daves, Brackens) that are supposed to be good, but I haven't been so I can't say.

Good
  1. Whitner's ... pretty much the best there is in the area ... http://www.whitnersbbq.com
  2. Smoked from Above (very good, just a tad below Whitner's)
  3. Rodman's (I'm not sure if the Rodman's in Suffolk is actually related to the Rodman's that was in Portsmouth or not, but Rodman's in Portsmouth was in institution for years)
Okay
  1. Johnson's BBQ (for some reason they douse it in sauce without asking ... they have a great smokey flavor, but you have to ask them to not put sauce on it and then go home and make your own vinegar + crushed red pepper sauce)
  2. Mission BBQ (chain food, but not bad)
  3. Smokey Bones (chain food, but edible. Not really Carolina style)
  4. Doumars - an institution in Norfolk that's a throwback to the old 50s diner where they skate out to your car. Sadly, their barbecue is average and tastes about like what you can get at the grocery store
Horrid crap unfit for human consumption
  1. Frankie's Place for Ribs (they have closed for good ... they were the most overrated restaurant ever ... I was expecting amazing and it was not as good as Applebee's)
  2. Pierce's (I can only assume that people who like it have never had decent barbecue)

Re: The best barbecue in your town is...

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:26 pm
by USN_Hokie
BigDave wrote:
USN_Hokie wrote:I'll admit, Hampton Roads has crap for BBQ options.
There isn't much good here ... it's not like going to ECU or the Triangle where every restaurant that serves barbecue has to be amazing or they go out of business ... but we have a few decent places. There are also a number of restaurants I have never tried, but want to (Carolina Son, Jakes, Daves, Brackens) that are supposed to be good, but I haven't been so I can't say.

Good
  1. Whitner's ... pretty much the best there is in the area ... http://www.whitnersbbq.com
  2. Smoked from Above (very good, just a tad below Whitner's)
  3. Rodman's (I'm not sure if the Rodman's in Suffolk is actually related to the Rodman's that was in Portsmouth or not, but Rodman's in Portsmouth was in institution for years)
Okay
  1. Johnson's BBQ (for some reason they douse it in sauce without asking ... they have a great smokey flavor, but you have to ask them to not put sauce on it and then go home and make your own vinegar + crushed red pepper sauce)
  2. Mission BBQ (chain food, but not bad)
  3. Smokey Bones (chain food, but edible. Not really Carolina style)
  4. Doumars - an institution in Norfolk that's a throwback to the old 50s diner where they skate out to your car. Sadly, their barbecue is average and tastes about like what you can get at the grocery store
Horrid crap unfit for human consumption
  1. Frankie's Place for Ribs (they have closed for good ... they were the most overrated restaurant ever ... I was expecting amazing and it was not as good as Applebee's)
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  2. Pierce's (I can only assume that people who like it have never had decent barbecue)
Yes, thank you.