Rigged elections

[RiverguyVT]

"Rigged elections" can mean different things to different people.

To me, this is one such meaning:

[HokieHam]

Interesting stuff. If this was reversed, it would be 24/7/365.

[HokieFanDC]

"Rigged elections" can mean different things to different people.

To me, this is one such meaning:

If people are making donations in other people's names - yep, that would be illegal and election fraud.

Or, they could be making multiple donations because they didn't check a box not to make recurring donations.
This is something that ActBlue and WinRed both do. It's despicable.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsole ... 0da1234a18

[HvilleHokie]

"Rigged elections" can mean different things to different people.

To me, this is one such meaning:

If people are making donations in other people's names - yep, that would be illegal and election fraud.

Or, they could be making multiple donations because they didn't check a box not to make recurring donations.
This is something that ActBlue and WinRed both do. It's despicable.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsole ... 0da1234a18

lol.. two people in a poorly produced video who admit to making donations but not that many. one of whom is clearly senile.

i'm convinced!!

[RiverguyVT]

Does this count as one type of election rigging?

[HokieJoe]

Does this count as one type of election rigging?

https://nypost.com/2023/04/19/left-igno ... heir-bias/

The left ignores the real Biden Delaware drama to satisfy their bias
By Miranda Devine
April 19, 2023 11:31pm Updated

New York Times opinionista Michelle Goldberg complained bitterly this week that she had trekked all the way to Wilmington, Del., at the brutal hour of 7 a.m. to watch the Dominion-vs.-Fox News defamation trial, only for the parties to settle before the show began.

“Deeply disappointing” was her reaction.

All the disappointed media operatives huddled at Wilmington’s Superior Court, like Goldberg and CNN’s crestfallen Oliver Darcy, could make themselves useful in the president’s hometown. They could investigate a story that is bigger than Watergate but which they have shamefully avoided or downplayed for almost three years: Biden family corruption and the associated coverup, including by the FBI and Big Tech.

After all, the House Oversight and Judiciary committees have given them plenty of ammo.

Take the bombshell this week from former acting CIA Director Mike Morell.

In a sworn interview, Morell has admitted it was Joe Biden’s presidential campaign that prompted the infamous letter in which Morell and 50 fellow former intelligence officials falsely claimed that material from Hunter Biden’s laptop published by The Post before the 2020 election was Russian disinformation, sources in the House Judiciary Committee have confirmed.

Tony Blinken, now secretary of state, was the Biden campaign foreign affairs adviser who urgently phoned Morell in October 2020 to suggest the laptop was a Russian plant.

“We can prove that the entire purpose of this letter at the outset was to influence a presidential election with some of the most senior people who have ever been in our intelligence community ­using the imprimatur of their security clearances to pave the way for Joe Biden’s presidency,” Congressman Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) told Steve Bannon’s “War Room” podcast this week.

Morell, now a CBS contributor (Hey, “60 Minutes,” scoop in your backyard!), was deposed last week by the House Judiciary Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government.

He admitted that, after the call from Blinken, he solicited signatures for his letter from 50 other former intelligence officials.

The letter, published in Politico on Oct. 19, 2020, two weeks before the election, falsely claimed that emails from the laptop published by The Post had “all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation … Moscow [will] pull out the stops to do anything possible to help Trump win and/or to weaken Biden should he win.”

The letter was used by candidate Biden three days later, in his final debate against President Donald Trump, to deflect accusations about Joe’s involvement in his family’s international influence-peddling operation, which had garnered millions of dollars from China and Ukraine while he was vice president.

“Morell wanted to be Joe Biden’s CIA director, got a phone call from Tony Blinken, who was representing the Biden campaign, saying, ‘Gee, Mike, doesn’t this Hunter Biden laptop look like Russian disinformation?’ ” said Gaetz.

“Morell testifies that then triggers him to be the ringleader of an enterprise to go to others and to put together a letter for the specific purpose of use by Joe Biden in the presidential debate … We can prove that and much more.”

The committee has also interviewed a former adviser to ex-CIA Director John Brennan and Obama White House alum Nick Shapiro, who cooked up the letter with Morell and delivered it to ­Politico.

2020 elex interference

House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) will release a report in the next couple of weeks tracing the origins of the “Dirty 51” letter, showing it constituted corrupt interference in the 2020 presidential election.

Meanwhile, House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer (R-Ky.) this week revealed that newly accessed financial records from the Treasury Department show “the Biden family enterprise is centered on Joe Biden’s political career and connections, and it has generated an exorbitant amount of money for the Biden family.”

Comer’s team has identified “six additional members of Biden’s family who may have benefited from the Biden family’s businesses that we are investigating, bringing the total number of those involved or benefiting to nine.”

Then there is the IRS whistleblower.

It was only last week that the president, 80, conspicuously took his 53-year-old son with him on Air Force One on a state visit to Ireland, despite the fact that Hunter is under criminal investigation over his overseas business dealings.

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[HokieJoe]

[UpstateSCHokie]

What was it Harry Reid said after the 2012 election when he was called out for lying about Romney's taxes? "Obama won didn't he?" That's all that matters to these scumbags.

[HokieHam]

What was it Harry Reid said after the 2012 election when he was called out for lying about Romney's taxes? "Obama won didn't he?" That's all that matters to these scumbags.

If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.

[UpstateSCHokie]

But I was told than anyone that doesn't believe our elections (now riddled with mail-in ballots) are free & fair (only when Democrats win of course) is a CoNsPIraCy ThEOriST!

[HokieJoe]

But I was told than anyone that doesn't believe our elections (now riddled with mail-in ballots) are free & fair (only when Democrats win of course) is a CoNsPIraCy ThEOriST!

Those people are lying F'ing idiots. Treat them as such.

[RiverguyVT]

But I was told than anyone that doesn't believe our elections (now riddled with mail-in ballots) are free & fair (only when Democrats win of course) is a CoNsPIraCy ThEOriST!

I’m pretty sure posters here have assured us that fraud cannot occur via mail in ballots

[Major Kong]

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[HokieFanDC]

But I was told than anyone that doesn't believe our elections (now riddled with mail-in ballots) are free & fair (only when Democrats win of course) is a CoNsPIraCy ThEOriST!

I’m pretty sure posters here have assured us that fraud cannot occur via mail in ballots

1) No one has said that fraud can't occur. Just that mail in ballots are accurate and secure.
2) Did any of you read the actual article about the voter registration history?

[HokieJoe]

But I was told than anyone that doesn't believe our elections (now riddled with mail-in ballots) are free & fair (only when Democrats win of course) is a CoNsPIraCy ThEOriST!

I’m pretty sure posters here have assured us that fraud cannot occur via mail in ballots

1) No one has said that fraud can't occur. Just that mail in ballots are accurate and secure.
2) Did any of you read the actual article about the voter registration history?

No, mass mail-in ballots are NOT safe and secure.

[HokieFanDC]

But I was told than anyone that doesn't believe our elections (now riddled with mail-in ballots) are free & fair (only when Democrats win of course) is a CoNsPIraCy ThEOriST!

I’m pretty sure posters here have assured us that fraud cannot occur via mail in ballots

1) No one has said that fraud can't occur. Just that mail in ballots are accurate and secure.
2) Did any of you read the actual article about the voter registration history?

No, mass mail-in ballots are NOT safe and secure.

That's an evidence free claim, Joe.

[UpstateSCHokie]

There are 16 countries in the rest of Europe, and they are even more restrictive. Every single one bans mail-in voting for those living in the country or require a photo ID to obtain a mail-in ballot. Sixty-three percent don't allow mail-in ballots even for citizens living outside of the country.

Are all of these countries, socialist and non-socialist alike, Western and Eastern European, developed and undeveloped, acting "without evidence?" It is not as though people in these countries haven't heard the same arguments about the importance of the ease of voting—or about how photo ID requirements will, as one professor in the U.K. explained, supposedly "lead to people not being able to vote."

These countries have learned the hard way what happens when mail-in ballots aren't secured. They have also discovered how hard it is to detect vote buying when both those buying and selling the votes have an incentive to hide the exchange.

France banned mail-in voting in 1975 because of massive fraud in Corsica, where postal ballots were stolen or bought and voters cast multiple votes. Mail-in ballots were used to cast the votes of dead people.

The U.K., which allows postal voting, has had some notable mail-in ballot fraud cases. Prior to recent photo ID requirements, six Labour Party councilors in Birmingham won office after what the judge described as a "massive, systematic and organized" postal voting fraud campaign. The fraud was apparently carried out with the full knowledge and cooperation of the local Labour Party. There was "widespread theft" of postal votes (possibly around 40,000 ballots) in areas with large Muslim populations, because Labour members were worried that the Iraq War would spur these voters to oppose the incumbent government.

In 1991, Mexico's election mandated voter photo IDs and banned absentee ballots. The then-governing Institutional Revolutionary Party had long used fraud and intimidation with mail-in ballots in order to win elections. Only in 2006 were absentee ballots again allowed, and then only for those living abroad who requested them at least six months in advance.

If concern about voter fraud with mail-in ballots is delusional, it is a delusion that is shared by most of the world. Even the countries that allow mail-in ballots have protections, such as government-issued photo IDs. But Americans are constantly assured even this step is completely unnecessary. Without basic precautions, our elections are on course to become the laughingstock of the developed world.

https://www.newsweek.com/voting-fraud-r ... on-1522535

‘Absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud.” That quote isn’t from President Trump, who criticized mail-in voting this week after Wisconsin Democrats tried and failed to change an election at the last minute into an exclusively mail-in affair. It’s the conclusion of the bipartisan 2005 report of the Commission on Federal Election Reform, chaired by former President Jimmy Carter and former Secretary of State James Baker III.

Concerns about vote-buying have a long history in the U.S. They helped drive the move to the secret ballot, which U.S. states adopted between 1888 and 1950. Secret ballots made it harder for vote buyers to monitor which candidates sellers actually voted for. Vote-buying had been pervasive; my research with Larry Kenny at the University of Florida has found that voter turnout fell by about 8% to 12% after states adopted the secret ballot.

You wouldn’t know any of this listening to the media outcry over Mr. Trump’s remarks. “There is a lot of dishonesty going on with mail-in voting,” the president said Tuesday. In response, a CNN “fact check” declares that Mr. Trump “opened a new front in his campaign of lies about voter fraud.” A New York Times headline asserts: “Trump Is Pushing a False Argument on Vote-by-Mail Fraud.” Both claim that voter fraud is essentially nonexistent. The Carter-Baker report found otherwise.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/heed-jimmy ... 1586557667

[UpstateSCHokie]

Nothing to see here

[HokieHam]

Nothing to see here

Is that for primaries? I know some states only allow you to vote for you’re registered Party in the primaries.

[HokieFanDC]

Nothing to see here

Is that for primaries? I know some states only allow you to vote for you’re registered Party in the primaries.

Primaries. Has been happening for 8 years.
Still seems weird. Why not have it on something inside?

[RiverguyVT]

Nothing to see here

Is that for primaries? I know some states only allow you to vote for you’re registered Party in the primaries.

Primaries. Has been happening for 8 years.
Still seems weird. Why not have it on something inside?

That would make it harder for the fraudsters to commit fraud.

Did you see where one of the Trump clan (geez -how many relatives does this guy have for his nepotism plays??!) who wants to head the GOP in Rona's place is calling for the GOP to ballot harvest like the Ds do? An "if ya can't beat em, join em" ploy. Ugh.

No more mail in ballots. Period.
(if I were king for a day, I'd do away with voting privileges for anyone that isn't a taxpayer, and maybe even land owner. Wimmen too.)

[HokieHam]

Nothing to see here

Is that for primaries? I know some states only allow you to vote for you’re registered Party in the primaries.

Primaries. Has been happening for 8 years.
Still seems weird. Why not have it on something inside?

That would make it harder for the fraudsters to commit fraud.

Did you see where one of the Trump clan (geez -how many relatives does this guy have for his nepotism plays??!) who wants to head the GOP in Rona's place is calling for the GOP to ballot harvest like the Ds do? An "if ya can't beat em, join em" ploy. Ugh.

No more mail in ballots. Period.
(if I were king for a day, I'd do away with voting privileges for anyone that isn't a taxpayer, and maybe even land owner. Wimmen too.)

It was Eric’s wife. And she was right. It’s time to fight fire with fire. These commies are setting the precedent. They must be defeated and if that means doing what they do where it’s legal, then do it.

[HokieJoe]

Nothing to see here

Is that for primaries? I know some states only allow you to vote for you’re registered Party in the primaries.

Primaries. Has been happening for 8 years.
Still seems weird. Why not have it on something inside?

That would make it harder for the fraudsters to commit fraud.

Did you see where one of the Trump clan (geez -how many relatives does this guy have for his nepotism plays??!) who wants to head the GOP in Rona's place is calling for the GOP to ballot harvest like the Ds do? An "if ya can't beat em, join em" ploy. Ugh.

No more mail in ballots. Period.
(if I were king for a day, I'd do away with voting privileges for anyone that isn't a taxpayer, and maybe even land owner. Wimmen too.)

It was Eric’s wife. And she was right. It’s time to fight fire with fire. These commies are setting the precedent. They must be defeated and if that means doing what they do where it’s legal, then do it.

Some people are still worried about 'muuuuh norms'. Meanwhile their neighbor's fatherless child is pissing on the rug, tearing down their drapery and kicking them in the balls.

Real losers have skin in the game but refuse to fight. They imagine their blind stoicism will shield them from the storm heading OUR way courtesy of the left.

They're going to long for better days sooner than they think. They're reticence to confrontation may well be all of our undoing.

[HokieJoe]

But I was told than anyone that doesn't believe our elections (now riddled with mail-in ballots) are free & fair (only when Democrats win of course) is a CoNsPIraCy ThEOriST!

I’m pretty sure posters here have assured us that fraud cannot occur via mail in ballots

1) No one has said that fraud can't occur. Just that mail in ballots are accurate and secure.
2) Did any of you read the actual article about the voter registration history?

No, mass mail-in ballots are NOT safe and secure.

That's an evidence free claim, Joe.

Your claim is evidence free and based on faith. My claim is based on sound judgment of human nature.

[HokieFanDC]

But I was told than anyone that doesn't believe our elections (now riddled with mail-in ballots) are free & fair (only when Democrats win of course) is a CoNsPIraCy ThEOriST!

I’m pretty sure posters here have assured us that fraud cannot occur via mail in ballots

1) No one has said that fraud can't occur. Just that mail in ballots are accurate and secure.
2) Did any of you read the actual article about the voter registration history?

No, mass mail-in ballots are NOT safe and secure.

That's an evidence free claim, Joe.

Your claim is evidence free and based on faith. My claim is based on sound judgment of human nature.

Your rebuttal is stating that your claim doesn't rely on evidence, but on judgment and human nature?

That's funny Joe.

My claim is based on the results of elections with mail in voting and the results from states that have had mail in voting for everyone, for years.