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RiverguyVT wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 2:51 pm https://www.theblaze.com/news/wildfire- ... olar-power

rEnEwAbLe eNErGy~! (vs. cis-energy?)
You mean it’s foolish to pin all our energy production on factors we can’t control, like whether the sun shines or the wind blows?

Do you have the audacity to say it’s smart to have dependable sources?

You will be excommunicated from The Church of Gaia and Central Authority.
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WEHRedux wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:08 pm
RiverguyVT wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 2:51 pm https://www.theblaze.com/news/wildfire- ... olar-power

rEnEwAbLe eNErGy~! (vs. cis-energy?)
You mean it’s foolish to pin all our energy production on factors we can’t control, like whether the sun shines or the wind blows?

Do you have the audacity to say it’s smart to have dependable sources?

You will be excommunicated from The Church of Gaia and Central Authority.
If only there were some mechanism to store electrical energy for when the sun isn’t shining.

This thread is almost as stupid as the one blaming the road collapse in Philly on fossil fuels
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https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2 ... power-out/

Germany is about to fire up coal plants! Progress!
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HokieHam wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:59 pm https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2 ... power-out/

Germany is about to fire up coal plants! Progress!
Former GDR communist Merkel: Hey Vlad, can vee get some natural gas over here already? Veee awr going to freezth to death in zee global warming vintners wittout zee pipeline!
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WEHRedux wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:08 pm
RiverguyVT wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 2:51 pm https://www.theblaze.com/news/wildfire- ... olar-power

rEnEwAbLe eNErGy~! (vs. cis-energy?)
You mean it’s foolish to pin all our energy production on factors we can’t control, like whether the sun shines or the wind blows?

Do you have the audacity to say it’s smart to have dependable sources?

You will be excommunicated from The Church of Gaia and Central Authority.
Just so I’m clear, you are saying that oil(the price of which is determined by Saudi, Russia, Iran, and the rest of OPEC+) is reliable.

You think the big fusion reactor in the sky or the winds and tides are unreliable?

Such a silly statement. Why would we pay higher prices for fossil fuels when renewables are so much cheaper? Of course we won’t.
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fatman wrote: Tue Jun 13, 2023 1:33 am Just so I’m clear, you are saying that oil(the price of which is determined by Saudi, Russia, Iran, and the rest of OPEC+) is reliable.

You think the big fusion reactor in the sky or the winds and tides are unreliable?

Such a silly statement. Why would we pay higher prices for fossil fuels when renewables are so much cheaper? Of course we won’t.
The summer grievance reruns have begun on Fox. Enjoy all the hits from the 1990s like "Renewable Energy Pollutes More Than Oil", and "Chicken is Making Our Children Gay".

But wait, there's MORE!

If you act now they'll throw in a bic lighter raising "Tax Cuts for the RIch Will Stimulate the Economy" and everyone's favorite "Real Men Love Jesus and Buy Multiple ARs"!

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HokieJoe wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:59 pm
HokieHam wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:59 pm https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2 ... power-out/

Germany is about to fire up coal plants! Progress!
Former GDR communist Merkel: Hey Vlad, can vee get some natural gas over here already? Veee awr going to freezth to death in zee global warming vintners wittout zee pipeline!
New Study: Nuclear Power Is Humanity's Greenest Energy Option
Land-hungry biomass, wind, and solar power are set to occupy an area equivalent of the size of the European Union by 2050.
https://reason.com/2023/05/10/new-stud ... gy-option/
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dunwithtrump wrote: Tue Jun 13, 2023 11:16 am
fatman wrote: Tue Jun 13, 2023 1:33 am Just so I’m clear, you are saying that oil(the price of which is determined by Saudi, Russia, Iran, and the rest of OPEC+) is reliable.

You think the big fusion reactor in the sky or the winds and tides are unreliable?

Such a silly statement. Why would we pay higher prices for fossil fuels when renewables are so much cheaper? Of course we won’t.
The summer grievance reruns have begun on Fox. Enjoy all the hits from the 1990s like "Renewable Energy Pollutes More Than Oil", and "Chicken is Making Our Children Gay".

But wait, there's MORE!

If you act now they'll throw in a bic lighter raising "Tax Cuts for the RIch Will Stimulate the Economy" and everyone's favorite "Real Men Love Jesus and Buy Multiple ARs"!

To be a conservative is an exercise in beta behavior and a proud and loyal demonstration of one's flaming ignorance in deference to authority.
Okay, Bai-Zuo.
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Re: Imagine cutting electrical output 50%

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HokieHam wrote: Tue Jun 13, 2023 12:45 pm
HokieJoe wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:59 pm
HokieHam wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:59 pm https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2 ... power-out/

Germany is about to fire up coal plants! Progress!
Former GDR communist Merkel: Hey Vlad, can vee get some natural gas over here already? Veee awr going to freezth to death in zee global warming vintners wittout zee pipeline!
New Study: Nuclear Power Is Humanity's Greenest Energy Option
Land-hungry biomass, wind, and solar power are set to occupy an area equivalent of the size of the European Union by 2050.
https://reason.com/2023/05/10/new-stud ... gy-option/
Fake news. Solar doesn't need fully dedicated space, it repurposes rooftops, parking spaces, etc. Second, only a tiny fraction of the earth would need to be dedicated to solar in order to meet our global energy needs. Elemental power can exist in the footprint vacated by non-viable coal power plants. Appreciate the concern, but Elon has this all sorted out already.
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fatman wrote: Tue Jun 13, 2023 1:24 pm
HokieHam wrote: Tue Jun 13, 2023 12:45 pm
HokieJoe wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:59 pm
HokieHam wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:59 pm https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2 ... power-out/

Germany is about to fire up coal plants! Progress!
Former GDR communist Merkel: Hey Vlad, can vee get some natural gas over here already? Veee awr going to freezth to death in zee global warming vintners wittout zee pipeline!
New Study: Nuclear Power Is Humanity's Greenest Energy Option
Land-hungry biomass, wind, and solar power are set to occupy an area equivalent of the size of the European Union by 2050.
https://reason.com/2023/05/10/new-stud ... gy-option/
Fake news. Solar doesn't need fully dedicated space, it repurposes rooftops, parking spaces, etc. Second, only a tiny fraction of the earth would need to be dedicated to solar in order to meet our global energy needs. Elemental power can exist in the footprint vacated by non-viable coal power plants. Appreciate the concern, but Elon has this all sorted out already.
It’s not fake news. It also mentions wind in the article as well.

Keep dreaming. This is decades away from becoming reality.
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HvilleHokie wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:56 pm
WEHRedux wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:08 pm
RiverguyVT wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 2:51 pm https://www.theblaze.com/news/wildfire- ... olar-power

rEnEwAbLe eNErGy~! (vs. cis-energy?)
You mean it’s foolish to pin all our energy production on factors we can’t control, like whether the sun shines or the wind blows?

Do you have the audacity to say it’s smart to have dependable sources?

You will be excommunicated from The Church of Gaia and Central Authority.
If only there were some mechanism to store electrical energy for when the sun isn’t shining.

This thread is almost as stupid as the one blaming the road collapse in Philly on fossil fuels
Because we all know battery manufacture and disposal is so green. right?
So I put (the dead dog) on her doorstep!
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fatman wrote: Tue Jun 13, 2023 1:33 am
WEHRedux wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:08 pm
RiverguyVT wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 2:51 pm https://www.theblaze.com/news/wildfire- ... olar-power

rEnEwAbLe eNErGy~! (vs. cis-energy?)
You mean it’s foolish to pin all our energy production on factors we can’t control, like whether the sun shines or the wind blows?

Do you have the audacity to say it’s smart to have dependable sources?

You will be excommunicated from The Church of Gaia and Central Authority.
Just so I’m clear, you are saying that oil(the price of which is determined by Saudi, Russia, Iran, and the rest of OPEC+) is reliable.

You think the big fusion reactor in the sky or the winds and tides are unreliable?

Such a silly statement. Why would we pay higher prices for fossil fuels when renewables are so much cheaper? Of course we won’t.

:roll:

A) Solar and wind are not reliable sources of energy generation in every region.

B) United States crude oil production factors into the world market price of oil.
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HokieHam wrote: Tue Jun 13, 2023 1:28 pm
fatman wrote: Tue Jun 13, 2023 1:24 pm
HokieHam wrote: Tue Jun 13, 2023 12:45 pm
HokieJoe wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:59 pm
HokieHam wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:59 pm https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2 ... power-out/

Germany is about to fire up coal plants! Progress!
Former GDR communist Merkel: Hey Vlad, can vee get some natural gas over here already? Veee awr going to freezth to death in zee global warming vintners wittout zee pipeline!
New Study: Nuclear Power Is Humanity's Greenest Energy Option
Land-hungry biomass, wind, and solar power are set to occupy an area equivalent of the size of the European Union by 2050.
https://reason.com/2023/05/10/new-stud ... gy-option/
Fake news. Solar doesn't need fully dedicated space, it repurposes rooftops, parking spaces, etc. Second, only a tiny fraction of the earth would need to be dedicated to solar in order to meet our global energy needs. Elemental power can exist in the footprint vacated by non-viable coal power plants. Appreciate the concern, but Elon has this all sorted out already.
It’s not fake news. It also mentions wind in the article as well.

Keep dreaming. This is decades away from becoming reality.

Fantasy is all he has.
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RiverguyVT wrote: Tue Jun 13, 2023 1:53 pm
HvilleHokie wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:56 pm
WEHRedux wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:08 pm
RiverguyVT wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 2:51 pm https://www.theblaze.com/news/wildfire- ... olar-power

rEnEwAbLe eNErGy~! (vs. cis-energy?)
You mean it’s foolish to pin all our energy production on factors we can’t control, like whether the sun shines or the wind blows?

Do you have the audacity to say it’s smart to have dependable sources?

You will be excommunicated from The Church of Gaia and Central Authority.
If only there were some mechanism to store electrical energy for when the sun isn’t shining.

This thread is almost as stupid as the one blaming the road collapse in Philly on fossil fuels
Because we all know battery manufacture and disposal is so green. right?
Compared to horse and buggy, batteries are awful.

Compared to fossil fuels, batteries are extremely green.

Don’t fall victim to the misinfo out there. This is a massive improvement.
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HokieJoe wrote: Tue Jun 13, 2023 3:34 pm
fatman wrote: Tue Jun 13, 2023 1:33 am
WEHRedux wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:08 pm
RiverguyVT wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 2:51 pm https://www.theblaze.com/news/wildfire- ... olar-power

rEnEwAbLe eNErGy~! (vs. cis-energy?)
You mean it’s foolish to pin all our energy production on factors we can’t control, like whether the sun shines or the wind blows?

Do you have the audacity to say it’s smart to have dependable sources?

You will be excommunicated from The Church of Gaia and Central Authority.
Just so I’m clear, you are saying that oil(the price of which is determined by Saudi, Russia, Iran, and the rest of OPEC+) is reliable.

You think the big fusion reactor in the sky or the winds and tides are unreliable?

Such a silly statement. Why would we pay higher prices for fossil fuels when renewables are so much cheaper? Of course we won’t.

:roll:

A) Solar and wind are not reliable sources of energy generation in every region.

B) United States crude oil production factors into the world market price of oil.
I’m betting on the giant fusion source in the sky. Like Annie says, the sun will come out tomorrow. I agree that solar will need some supplementation with batteries, elemental, and other sources.

Not really. oPEC+ and Russia have used supply constraints as a weapon for decades. I’m betting on the reliability of the sun more so than Putin, the jerks in Iran, or the prince of KSA.

We are heading to a much better situation. We are going to make America great.
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fatman wrote: Tue Jun 13, 2023 4:46 pm
HokieJoe wrote: Tue Jun 13, 2023 3:34 pm
fatman wrote: Tue Jun 13, 2023 1:33 am
WEHRedux wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:08 pm
RiverguyVT wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 2:51 pm https://www.theblaze.com/news/wildfire- ... olar-power

rEnEwAbLe eNErGy~! (vs. cis-energy?)
You mean it’s foolish to pin all our energy production on factors we can’t control, like whether the sun shines or the wind blows?

Do you have the audacity to say it’s smart to have dependable sources?

You will be excommunicated from The Church of Gaia and Central Authority.
Just so I’m clear, you are saying that oil(the price of which is determined by Saudi, Russia, Iran, and the rest of OPEC+) is reliable.

You think the big fusion reactor in the sky or the winds and tides are unreliable?

Such a silly statement. Why would we pay higher prices for fossil fuels when renewables are so much cheaper? Of course we won’t.

:roll:

A) Solar and wind are not reliable sources of energy generation in every region.

B) United States crude oil production factors into the world market price of oil.
I’m betting on the giant fusion source in the sky. Like Annie says, the sun will come out tomorrow. I agree that solar will need some supplementation with batteries, elemental, and other sources.

Not really. oPEC+ and Russia have used supply constraints as a weapon for decades. I’m betting on the reliability of the sun more so than Putin, the jerks in Iran, or the prince of KSA.

We are heading to a much better situation. We are going to make America great.
You believe this nonsense because you're prone to believing in and evangelizing fantasies.

Your deceitfulness on this topic is boundless. US crude production does impact the ppb worldwide.
Wind and solar systems are supplemental at best and not suited for every environment.
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HokieJoe wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 10:12 pm
fatman wrote: Tue Jun 13, 2023 4:46 pm
HokieJoe wrote: Tue Jun 13, 2023 3:34 pm
fatman wrote: Tue Jun 13, 2023 1:33 am
WEHRedux wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:08 pm
RiverguyVT wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 2:51 pm https://www.theblaze.com/news/wildfire- ... olar-power

rEnEwAbLe eNErGy~! (vs. cis-energy?)
You mean it’s foolish to pin all our energy production on factors we can’t control, like whether the sun shines or the wind blows?

Do you have the audacity to say it’s smart to have dependable sources?

You will be excommunicated from The Church of Gaia and Central Authority.
Just so I’m clear, you are saying that oil(the price of which is determined by Saudi, Russia, Iran, and the rest of OPEC+) is reliable.

You think the big fusion reactor in the sky or the winds and tides are unreliable?

Such a silly statement. Why would we pay higher prices for fossil fuels when renewables are so much cheaper? Of course we won’t.

:roll:

A) Solar and wind are not reliable sources of energy generation in every region.

B) United States crude oil production factors into the world market price of oil.
I’m betting on the giant fusion source in the sky. Like Annie says, the sun will come out tomorrow. I agree that solar will need some supplementation with batteries, elemental, and other sources.

Not really. oPEC+ and Russia have used supply constraints as a weapon for decades. I’m betting on the reliability of the sun more so than Putin, the jerks in Iran, or the prince of KSA.

We are heading to a much better situation. We are going to make America great.
You believe this nonsense because you're prone to believing in and evangelizing fantasies.

Your deceitfulness on this topic is boundless. US crude production does impact the ppb worldwide.
Wind and solar systems are supplemental at best and not suited for every environment.
It’s a religion. This, the alphabet people and the slaughter of the unborn……
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HokieHam wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 11:01 pm
HokieJoe wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 10:12 pm
fatman wrote: Tue Jun 13, 2023 4:46 pm
HokieJoe wrote: Tue Jun 13, 2023 3:34 pm
fatman wrote: Tue Jun 13, 2023 1:33 am
WEHRedux wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:08 pm

You mean it’s foolish to pin all our energy production on factors we can’t control, like whether the sun shines or the wind blows?

Do you have the audacity to say it’s smart to have dependable sources?

You will be excommunicated from The Church of Gaia and Central Authority.
Just so I’m clear, you are saying that oil(the price of which is determined by Saudi, Russia, Iran, and the rest of OPEC+) is reliable.

You think the big fusion reactor in the sky or the winds and tides are unreliable?

Such a silly statement. Why would we pay higher prices for fossil fuels when renewables are so much cheaper? Of course we won’t.

:roll:

A) Solar and wind are not reliable sources of energy generation in every region.

B) United States crude oil production factors into the world market price of oil.
I’m betting on the giant fusion source in the sky. Like Annie says, the sun will come out tomorrow. I agree that solar will need some supplementation with batteries, elemental, and other sources.

Not really. oPEC+ and Russia have used supply constraints as a weapon for decades. I’m betting on the reliability of the sun more so than Putin, the jerks in Iran, or the prince of KSA.

We are heading to a much better situation. We are going to make America great.
You believe this nonsense because you're prone to believing in and evangelizing fantasies.

Your deceitfulness on this topic is boundless. US crude production does impact the ppb worldwide.
Wind and solar systems are supplemental at best and not suited for every environment.
It’s a religion. This, the alphabet people and the slaughter of the unborn……
Correct.
"I predict future happiness for Americans, if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." - Thomas Jefferson
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HokieJoe wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 10:12 pm
fatman wrote: Tue Jun 13, 2023 4:46 pm
HokieJoe wrote: Tue Jun 13, 2023 3:34 pm
fatman wrote: Tue Jun 13, 2023 1:33 am
WEHRedux wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:08 pm
RiverguyVT wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 2:51 pm https://www.theblaze.com/news/wildfire- ... olar-power

rEnEwAbLe eNErGy~! (vs. cis-energy?)
You mean it’s foolish to pin all our energy production on factors we can’t control, like whether the sun shines or the wind blows?

Do you have the audacity to say it’s smart to have dependable sources?

You will be excommunicated from The Church of Gaia and Central Authority.
Just so I’m clear, you are saying that oil(the price of which is determined by Saudi, Russia, Iran, and the rest of OPEC+) is reliable.

You think the big fusion reactor in the sky or the winds and tides are unreliable?

Such a silly statement. Why would we pay higher prices for fossil fuels when renewables are so much cheaper? Of course we won’t.

:roll:

A) Solar and wind are not reliable sources of energy generation in every region.

B) United States crude oil production factors into the world market price of oil.
I’m betting on the giant fusion source in the sky. Like Annie says, the sun will come out tomorrow. I agree that solar will need some supplementation with batteries, elemental, and other sources.

Not really. oPEC+ and Russia have used supply constraints as a weapon for decades. I’m betting on the reliability of the sun more so than Putin, the jerks in Iran, or the prince of KSA.

We are heading to a much better situation. We are going to make America great.
You believe this nonsense because you're prone to believing in and evangelizing fantasies.

Your deceitfulness on this topic is boundless. US crude production does impact the ppb worldwide.
Wind and solar systems are supplemental at best and not suited for every environment.
This entire premise is dead wrong. The sun is FAR more reliable than Saudi Arabia, Russia, Iran,etc. the US production has a marginal impact on global oil prices. OPEC has had the US economy by the balls by 50 years. Meanwhile the sun shines basically every day.

Solar prices drop every year, by a lot. Oil prices increase over time. Solar’s share grows every year. Coal’s viability drops every year. It is a supplement fuel, at best, as renewables share of energy production grows every year.
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fatman wrote: Fri Jun 16, 2023 1:31 am
HokieJoe wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 10:12 pm
fatman wrote: Tue Jun 13, 2023 4:46 pm
HokieJoe wrote: Tue Jun 13, 2023 3:34 pm
fatman wrote: Tue Jun 13, 2023 1:33 am
WEHRedux wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:08 pm

You mean it’s foolish to pin all our energy production on factors we can’t control, like whether the sun shines or the wind blows?

Do you have the audacity to say it’s smart to have dependable sources?

You will be excommunicated from The Church of Gaia and Central Authority.
Just so I’m clear, you are saying that oil(the price of which is determined by Saudi, Russia, Iran, and the rest of OPEC+) is reliable.

You think the big fusion reactor in the sky or the winds and tides are unreliable?

Such a silly statement. Why would we pay higher prices for fossil fuels when renewables are so much cheaper? Of course we won’t.

:roll:

A) Solar and wind are not reliable sources of energy generation in every region.

B) United States crude oil production factors into the world market price of oil.
I’m betting on the giant fusion source in the sky. Like Annie says, the sun will come out tomorrow. I agree that solar will need some supplementation with batteries, elemental, and other sources.

Not really. oPEC+ and Russia have used supply constraints as a weapon for decades. I’m betting on the reliability of the sun more so than Putin, the jerks in Iran, or the prince of KSA.

We are heading to a much better situation. We are going to make America great.
You believe this nonsense because you're prone to believing in and evangelizing fantasies.

Your deceitfulness on this topic is boundless. US crude production does impact the ppb worldwide.
Wind and solar systems are supplemental at best and not suited for every environment.
This entire premise is dead wrong. The sun is FAR more reliable than Saudi Arabia, Russia, Iran,etc. the US production has a marginal impact on global oil prices. OPEC has had the US economy by the balls by 50 years. Meanwhile the sun shines basically every day.

Solar prices drop every year, by a lot. Oil prices increase over time. Solar’s share grows every year. Coal’s viability drops every year. It is a supplement fuel, at best, as renewables share of energy production grows every year.

:roll:

The sun isn't the failure point.
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Re: Imagine cutting electrical output 50%

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fatman wrote: Tue Jun 13, 2023 4:43 pm
RiverguyVT wrote: Tue Jun 13, 2023 1:53 pm
HvilleHokie wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:56 pm
WEHRedux wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:08 pm
RiverguyVT wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 2:51 pm https://www.theblaze.com/news/wildfire- ... olar-power

rEnEwAbLe eNErGy~! (vs. cis-energy?)
You mean it’s foolish to pin all our energy production on factors we can’t control, like whether the sun shines or the wind blows?

Do you have the audacity to say it’s smart to have dependable sources?

You will be excommunicated from The Church of Gaia and Central Authority.
If only there were some mechanism to store electrical energy for when the sun isn’t shining.

This thread is almost as stupid as the one blaming the road collapse in Philly on fossil fuels
Because we all know battery manufacture and disposal is so green. right?
Compared to horse and buggy, batteries are awful.

Compared to fossil fuels, batteries are extremely green.

Don’t fall victim to the misinfo out there. This is a massive improvement.
Horse and buggy - your team is going insane over livestock. Horses fart! gLoBaL wArMiNg~!

Compared to fossil fuels, I cannot think of anything like this in the petro industry:

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Re: Imagine cutting electrical output 50%

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RiverguyVT wrote: Fri Jun 16, 2023 2:17 pm
fatman wrote: Tue Jun 13, 2023 4:43 pm
RiverguyVT wrote: Tue Jun 13, 2023 1:53 pm
HvilleHokie wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:56 pm
WEHRedux wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:08 pm
RiverguyVT wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 2:51 pm https://www.theblaze.com/news/wildfire- ... olar-power

rEnEwAbLe eNErGy~! (vs. cis-energy?)
You mean it’s foolish to pin all our energy production on factors we can’t control, like whether the sun shines or the wind blows?

Do you have the audacity to say it’s smart to have dependable sources?

You will be excommunicated from The Church of Gaia and Central Authority.
If only there were some mechanism to store electrical energy for when the sun isn’t shining.

This thread is almost as stupid as the one blaming the road collapse in Philly on fossil fuels
Because we all know battery manufacture and disposal is so green. right?
Compared to horse and buggy, batteries are awful.

Compared to fossil fuels, batteries are extremely green.

Don’t fall victim to the misinfo out there. This is a massive improvement.
Horse and buggy - your team is going insane over livestock. Horses fart! gLoBaL wArMiNg~!

Compared to fossil fuels, I cannot think of anything like this in the petro industry:

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The Africa fossil fuel industry is ruining large parts of Africa. It's not really about the industry, it's about Africa being led by generally horrible people that don't care about their citizens.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-deve ... iger-delta

You can mine or extract anything in a safe manner, but they don't do it because it's expensive and there are plenty of people that will take the risk because it's such a poor continent.
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Re: Imagine cutting electrical output 50%

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RiverguyVT wrote: Fri Jun 16, 2023 2:17 pm
fatman wrote: Tue Jun 13, 2023 4:43 pm
RiverguyVT wrote: Tue Jun 13, 2023 1:53 pm
HvilleHokie wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:56 pm
WEHRedux wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:08 pm
RiverguyVT wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 2:51 pm https://www.theblaze.com/news/wildfire- ... olar-power

rEnEwAbLe eNErGy~! (vs. cis-energy?)
You mean it’s foolish to pin all our energy production on factors we can’t control, like whether the sun shines or the wind blows?

Do you have the audacity to say it’s smart to have dependable sources?

You will be excommunicated from The Church of Gaia and Central Authority.
If only there were some mechanism to store electrical energy for when the sun isn’t shining.

This thread is almost as stupid as the one blaming the road collapse in Philly on fossil fuels
Because we all know battery manufacture and disposal is so green. right?
Compared to horse and buggy, batteries are awful.

Compared to fossil fuels, batteries are extremely green.

Don’t fall victim to the misinfo out there. This is a massive improvement.
Horse and buggy - your team is going insane over livestock. Horses fart! gLoBaL wArMiNg~!

Compared to fossil fuels, I cannot think of anything like this in the petro industry:

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If you are placing people on teams, I’ll go with the scientists who’ve measured global warming. Feel free to join the flat earth, anti-science crew who deny global warming.

I fear you don’t know much about the fossil fuel industry. It’s a very dirty industry largely led by awful authoritarian leaders like Putin, the Saudis, the Iranians, etc. not exactly know for their ethics or employment practices.
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Re: Imagine cutting electrical output 50%

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fatman wrote: Fri Jun 16, 2023 6:44 pm
RiverguyVT wrote: Fri Jun 16, 2023 2:17 pm
fatman wrote: Tue Jun 13, 2023 4:43 pm
RiverguyVT wrote: Tue Jun 13, 2023 1:53 pm
HvilleHokie wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:56 pm
WEHRedux wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:08 pm

You mean it’s foolish to pin all our energy production on factors we can’t control, like whether the sun shines or the wind blows?

Do you have the audacity to say it’s smart to have dependable sources?

You will be excommunicated from The Church of Gaia and Central Authority.
If only there were some mechanism to store electrical energy for when the sun isn’t shining.

This thread is almost as stupid as the one blaming the road collapse in Philly on fossil fuels
Because we all know battery manufacture and disposal is so green. right?
Compared to horse and buggy, batteries are awful.

Compared to fossil fuels, batteries are extremely green.

Don’t fall victim to the misinfo out there. This is a massive improvement.
Horse and buggy - your team is going insane over livestock. Horses fart! gLoBaL wArMiNg~!

Compared to fossil fuels, I cannot think of anything like this in the petro industry:

Image
If you are placing people on teams, I’ll go with the scientists who’ve measured global warming. Feel free to join the flat earth, anti-science crew who deny global warming.

I fear you don’t know much about the fossil fuel industry. It’s a very dirty industry largely led by awful authoritarian leaders like Putin, the Saudis, the Iranians, etc. not exactly know for their ethics or employment practices.
Ah….a cultist who believes the sCiENcE!

Hint: the science is biased and severely flawed
Also, the climate has been changing for millions of years and will continue to do so.

One of “your” scientists….
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