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...w/ 2yrs to implement replacement. Perfect.
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Re: McConnell to allow straight repeal vote of Obummercare
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Re: McConnell to allow straight repeal vote of Obummercare
Good stuff. The first two "failures" were maybe part of the plan. I was upset because I was hoping for the cost control promised when Trump took office, and was starting to have my doubts! Silly me.USN_Hokie wrote:...w/ 2yrs to implement replacement. Perfect.
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Odd how you're cheering for failure.ip_law-hokie wrote:Good stuff. The first two "failures" were maybe part of the plan. I was upset because I was hoping for the cost control promised when Trump took office, and was starting to have my doubts! Silly me.USN_Hokie wrote:...w/ 2yrs to implement replacement. Perfect.
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He's just cheering for single payer like any good crooked Hillary Gary Johnson voter would.awesome guy wrote:Odd how you're cheering for failure.ip_law-hokie wrote: Good stuff. The first two "failures" were maybe part of the plan. I was upset because I was hoping for the cost control promised when Trump took office, and was starting to have my doubts! Silly me.
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Another effup coming...
The republican senate couldn't pass shiite if it only took 40 votes. Hopelessly incompetent.
Just look at the incredibly bad job the republicans have done in the house. When Obama was potus the republican majority voted several times to repeal Obamacare, knowing it was a meaningless pony show. Trump gets elected, they stumble all over themselves and can't do squat. Eff 'em. Eff "em all!
The republican senate couldn't pass shiite if it only took 40 votes. Hopelessly incompetent.
Just look at the incredibly bad job the republicans have done in the house. When Obama was potus the republican majority voted several times to repeal Obamacare, knowing it was a meaningless pony show. Trump gets elected, they stumble all over themselves and can't do squat. Eff 'em. Eff "em all!
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3 GOP women are going to kill the full repeal. WTF? Did they vote for the full repeal the last 60 times it was voted on? If so, what phonies.
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Well, to be perfectly honest, it is amusing watching this shirt show with the republican president and republican congress unfold. Anyone can have a major set back, but it takes true talent to wait seven years for the chance, blow it, try again, blow it, to only propose a third, more ambitious option to blow a third time even more spectacularly than the first two attempts.awesome guy wrote:Odd how you're cheering for failure.ip_law-hokie wrote:Good stuff. The first two "failures" were maybe part of the plan. I was upset because I was hoping for the cost control promised when Trump took office, and was starting to have my doubts! Silly me.USN_Hokie wrote:...w/ 2yrs to implement replacement. Perfect.
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so when is full repeal coming to the floor?
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Re: McConnell to allow straight repeal vote of Obummercare
USN_Hokie wrote:...w/ 2yrs to implement replacement. Perfect.
How is that any different than not being able to get the votes for a repeal and replace.
In 2 years, the ACA will either have fallen apart, muddled along in mediocrity like it's current state, or gotten better (seems unlikely).
And if there still isn't a reasonable replacement, we'll be in the same boat we're in today.
What would be perfect would be doing something that actually improves the healthcare system and cuts costs.
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Re: McConnell to allow straight repeal vote of Obummercare
The Pubs are once again showing why they are hardly different from the Socialists. What's going to happen now is the Pubs will be blamed for this disaster because Americans have short memories and the Ministry of Truth will do its job to pin it on them.
Congrats you fuks, you've done it again.
Congrats you fuks, you've done it again.
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Cap'n is always on the clock.HokieFanDC wrote:USN_Hokie wrote:...w/ 2yrs to implement replacement. Perfect.
How is that any different than not being able to get the votes for a repeal and replace.
In 2 years, the ACA will either have fallen apart, muddled along in mediocrity like it's current state, or gotten better (seems unlikely).
And if there still isn't a reasonable replacement, we'll be in the same boat we're in today.
What would be perfect would be doing something that actually improves the healthcare system and cuts costs.
With their Cap’n and Chief Intelligence Officer having deserted them, River, Ham and Joe valiantly continue their whataboutismistic last stand of the DJT apology tour.
Re: McConnell to allow straight repeal vote of Obummercare
It makes democrats run on Obamacare during midterms and creates a forcing function to figure out a solution.HokieFanDC wrote:USN_Hokie wrote:...w/ 2yrs to implement replacement. Perfect.
How is that any different than not being able to get the votes for a repeal and replace.
In 2 years, the ACA will either have fallen apart, muddled along in mediocrity like it's current state, or gotten better (seems unlikely).
And if there still isn't a reasonable replacement, we'll be in the same boat we're in today.
What would be perfect would be doing something that actually improves the healthcare system and cuts costs.
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Re: McConnell to allow straight repeal vote of Obummercare
Correct - this is a "win" by the GOP. The fake news is just spinning it.USN_Hokie wrote:It makes democrats run on Obamacare during midterms and creates a forcing function to figure out a solution.HokieFanDC wrote:USN_Hokie wrote:...w/ 2yrs to implement replacement. Perfect.
How is that any different than not being able to get the votes for a repeal and replace.
In 2 years, the ACA will either have fallen apart, muddled along in mediocrity like it's current state, or gotten better (seems unlikely).
And if there still isn't a reasonable replacement, we'll be in the same boat we're in today.
What would be perfect would be doing something that actually improves the healthcare system and cuts costs.
With their Cap’n and Chief Intelligence Officer having deserted them, River, Ham and Joe valiantly continue their whataboutismistic last stand of the DJT apology tour.
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Re: McConnell to allow straight repeal vote of Obummercare
Yep. They're trying to simultaneously take insurance lobbying money and do the right thing with appeal. They don't want to give up the personal gains for the best interest of the nation, typical establishment wankers.HokieHam wrote:The Pubs are once again showing why they are hardly different from the Socialists. What's going to happen now is the Pubs will be blamed for this disaster because Americans have short memories and the Ministry of Truth will do its job to pin it on them.
Congrats you fuks, you've done it again.
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I don't buy the forcing function. If they still don't have a replacement in place in 2 years, they are not going to just wipe away the ACA.USN_Hokie wrote:It makes democrats run on Obamacare during midterms and creates a forcing function to figure out a solution.HokieFanDC wrote:USN_Hokie wrote:...w/ 2yrs to implement replacement. Perfect.
How is that any different than not being able to get the votes for a repeal and replace.
In 2 years, the ACA will either have fallen apart, muddled along in mediocrity like it's current state, or gotten better (seems unlikely).
And if there still isn't a reasonable replacement, we'll be in the same boat we're in today.
What would be perfect would be doing something that actually improves the healthcare system and cuts costs.
And on the second point, are you against them coming up with measures to improve healthcare? Why don't you think that is the smart thing to do?
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Re: McConnell to allow straight repeal vote of Obummercare
premiums are increasing double digits, people are not insured, the tax penalty is going to be skyrocketing (as per Obamacare plan) and the individual market has collapsed in some markets and will collapse in the rest...ip_law-hokie wrote:Cap'n is always on the clock.HokieFanDC wrote:USN_Hokie wrote:...w/ 2yrs to implement replacement. Perfect.
How is that any different than not being able to get the votes for a repeal and replace.
In 2 years, the ACA will either have fallen apart, muddled along in mediocrity like it's current state, or gotten better (seems unlikely).
And if there still isn't a reasonable replacement, we'll be in the same boat we're in today.
What would be perfect would be doing something that actually improves the healthcare system and cuts costs.
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Cwtcer - I support single payer.cwtcr hokie wrote:premiums are increasing double digits, people are not insured, the tax penalty is going to be skyrocketing (as per Obamacare plan) and the individual market has collapsed in some markets and will collapse in the rest...ip_law-hokie wrote:Cap'n is always on the clock.HokieFanDC wrote:USN_Hokie wrote:...w/ 2yrs to implement replacement. Perfect.
How is that any different than not being able to get the votes for a repeal and replace.
In 2 years, the ACA will either have fallen apart, muddled along in mediocrity like it's current state, or gotten better (seems unlikely).
And if there still isn't a reasonable replacement, we'll be in the same boat we're in today.
What would be perfect would be doing something that actually improves the healthcare system and cuts costs.
great plan to stick with, not sure why you are rooting for it but that is your style
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Re: McConnell to allow straight repeal vote of Obummercare
"Improve Healthcare" how do you expect me to respond to such a silly subjective thing? That's just flowery bullshit fed by and to folks to illicit an emotional response.HokieFanDC wrote:I don't buy the forcing function. If they still don't have a replacement in place in 2 years, they are not going to just wipe away the ACA.USN_Hokie wrote:It makes democrats run on Obamacare during midterms and creates a forcing function to figure out a solution.HokieFanDC wrote:USN_Hokie wrote:...w/ 2yrs to implement replacement. Perfect.
How is that any different than not being able to get the votes for a repeal and replace.
In 2 years, the ACA will either have fallen apart, muddled along in mediocrity like it's current state, or gotten better (seems unlikely).
And if there still isn't a reasonable replacement, we'll be in the same boat we're in today.
What would be perfect would be doing something that actually improves the healthcare system and cuts costs.
And on the second point, are you against them coming up with measures to improve healthcare? Why don't you think that is the smart thing to do?
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Re: McConnell to allow straight repeal vote of Obummercare
HokieFanDC wrote:I don't buy the forcing function. If they still don't have a replacement in place in 2 years, they are not going to just wipe away the ACA.USN_Hokie wrote:It makes democrats run on Obamacare during midterms and creates a forcing function to figure out a solution.HokieFanDC wrote:USN_Hokie wrote:...w/ 2yrs to implement replacement. Perfect.
How is that any different than not being able to get the votes for a repeal and replace.
In 2 years, the ACA will either have fallen apart, muddled along in mediocrity like it's current state, or gotten better (seems unlikely).
And if there still isn't a reasonable replacement, we'll be in the same boat we're in today.
What would be perfect would be doing something that actually improves the healthcare system and cuts costs.
And on the second point, are you against them coming up with measures to improve healthcare? Why don't you think that is the smart thing to do?
They tried fixing it once already. You must be a glutton for punishment........
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^^^This is an emotional response.^^^USN_Hokie wrote:"Improve Healthcare" how do you expect me to respond to such a silly subjective thing? That's just flowery bullshit fed by and to folks to illicit an emotional response.HokieFanDC wrote:I don't buy the forcing function. If they still don't have a replacement in place in 2 years, they are not going to just wipe away the ACA.USN_Hokie wrote:It makes democrats run on Obamacare during midterms and creates a forcing function to figure out a solution.HokieFanDC wrote:USN_Hokie wrote:...w/ 2yrs to implement replacement. Perfect.
How is that any different than not being able to get the votes for a repeal and replace.
In 2 years, the ACA will either have fallen apart, muddled along in mediocrity like it's current state, or gotten better (seems unlikely).
And if there still isn't a reasonable replacement, we'll be in the same boat we're in today.
What would be perfect would be doing something that actually improves the healthcare system and cuts costs.
And on the second point, are you against them coming up with measures to improve healthcare? Why don't you think that is the smart thing to do?
It's not subjective. We have a healthcare system today. You, and I, think it sucks and needs to be changed. What steps do you think need to be taken to change our healthcare system and make it better than it is today? "Repeal Obamacare" isn't improving anything without taking additional steps.
So,why don't we take those steps today, rather than make no progress b/c no one can agree on how to replace the entire ACA?
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Nope, repealing the ACA is better healthcare.HokieFanDC wrote:^^^This is an emotional response.^^^USN_Hokie wrote:"Improve Healthcare" how do you expect me to respond to such a silly subjective thing? That's just flowery bullshit fed by and to folks to illicit an emotional response.HokieFanDC wrote:I don't buy the forcing function. If they still don't have a replacement in place in 2 years, they are not going to just wipe away the ACA.USN_Hokie wrote:It makes democrats run on Obamacare during midterms and creates a forcing function to figure out a solution.HokieFanDC wrote:USN_Hokie wrote:...w/ 2yrs to implement replacement. Perfect.
How is that any different than not being able to get the votes for a repeal and replace.
In 2 years, the ACA will either have fallen apart, muddled along in mediocrity like it's current state, or gotten better (seems unlikely).
And if there still isn't a reasonable replacement, we'll be in the same boat we're in today.
What would be perfect would be doing something that actually improves the healthcare system and cuts costs.
And on the second point, are you against them coming up with measures to improve healthcare? Why don't you think that is the smart thing to do?
It's not subjective. We have a healthcare system today. You, and I, think it sucks and needs to be changed. What steps do you think need to be taken to change our healthcare system and make it better than it is today? "Repeal Obamacare" isn't improving anything without taking additional steps.
So,why don't we take those steps today, rather than make no progress b/c no one can agree on how to replace the entire ACA?
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I"m not sure what this post means. Who do you think "they" is?HokieHam wrote:HokieFanDC wrote:I don't buy the forcing function. If they still don't have a replacement in place in 2 years, they are not going to just wipe away the ACA.USN_Hokie wrote:It makes democrats run on Obamacare during midterms and creates a forcing function to figure out a solution.HokieFanDC wrote:USN_Hokie wrote:...w/ 2yrs to implement replacement. Perfect.
How is that any different than not being able to get the votes for a repeal and replace.
In 2 years, the ACA will either have fallen apart, muddled along in mediocrity like it's current state, or gotten better (seems unlikely).
And if there still isn't a reasonable replacement, we'll be in the same boat we're in today.
What would be perfect would be doing something that actually improves the healthcare system and cuts costs.
And on the second point, are you against them coming up with measures to improve healthcare? Why don't you think that is the smart thing to do?
They tried fixing it once already. You must be a glutton for punishment........
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Re: McConnell to allow straight repeal vote of Obummercare
The government.........what else? Get the government out of health insurance completely. Repeal the ACA. It's simple. Do what they promised, like Rand Paul is saying. Everyone says he's grandstanding. BS. He's the only one with a plan I can support.HokieFanDC wrote:I"m not sure what this post means. Who do you think "they" is?HokieHam wrote:HokieFanDC wrote:I don't buy the forcing function. If they still don't have a replacement in place in 2 years, they are not going to just wipe away the ACA.USN_Hokie wrote:It makes democrats run on Obamacare during midterms and creates a forcing function to figure out a solution.HokieFanDC wrote:USN_Hokie wrote:...w/ 2yrs to implement replacement. Perfect.
How is that any different than not being able to get the votes for a repeal and replace.
In 2 years, the ACA will either have fallen apart, muddled along in mediocrity like it's current state, or gotten better (seems unlikely).
And if there still isn't a reasonable replacement, we'll be in the same boat we're in today.
What would be perfect would be doing something that actually improves the healthcare system and cuts costs.
And on the second point, are you against them coming up with measures to improve healthcare? Why don't you think that is the smart thing to do?
They tried fixing it once already. You must be a glutton for punishment........
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Re: McConnell to allow straight repeal vote of Obummercare
Nope. Sorry.HokieFanDC wrote:^^^This is an emotional response.^^^USN_Hokie wrote:"Improve Healthcare" how do you expect me to respond to such a silly subjective thing? That's just flowery bullshit fed by and to folks to illicit an emotional response.HokieFanDC wrote:I don't buy the forcing function. If they still don't have a replacement in place in 2 years, they are not going to just wipe away the ACA.USN_Hokie wrote:It makes democrats run on Obamacare during midterms and creates a forcing function to figure out a solution.HokieFanDC wrote:USN_Hokie wrote:...w/ 2yrs to implement replacement. Perfect.
How is that any different than not being able to get the votes for a repeal and replace.
In 2 years, the ACA will either have fallen apart, muddled along in mediocrity like it's current state, or gotten better (seems unlikely).
And if there still isn't a reasonable replacement, we'll be in the same boat we're in today.
What would be perfect would be doing something that actually improves the healthcare system and cuts costs.
And on the second point, are you against them coming up with measures to improve healthcare? Why don't you think that is the smart thing to do?
It's not subjective. We have a healthcare system today. You, and I, think it sucks and needs to be changed. What steps do you think need to be taken to change our healthcare system and make it better than it is today? "Repeal Obamacare" isn't improving anything without taking additional steps.
So,why don't we take those steps today, rather than make no progress b/c no one can agree on how to replace the entire ACA?
1. Speaking with emotion is not the same thing as a response driven by emotion. Words are important. You're making the same stupid "we have to do something" argument that got us into this mess.
2. Your argument defeats itself. You think we all agree healthcare needs to be improved, yet you have to ask me what steps need to be taken? You admit there is no consensus - your argument is fallacious.
3. Curious - What would Margaret Sanger say should be done to "improve Healthcare?" Are you trying to tell me there's no subjective differences in your interpretation of the phrase?
Of course not. That's why the question is silly bullshit meant to illicit an irrational response.