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Goochland: Owner ripped to pieces by miniature dachshunds
http://wtvr.com/2017/12/15/bethany-step ... nd-county/
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Agnew described the scene as one of the most grisly he has seen in his 40 years of law enforcement.
“It was very clear the woman in the woods had suffered severe injuries consistent with being mauled by these dogs,” Agnew said.
The sheriff said that according to a preliminary report from the medical examiner, Stephens two pit bulls, each weighing about the same amount as her, 125 pounds, killed their owner.
“There were no strangulation marks, the victim had puncture wounds in the skull and this was not a homicide,” Agnew said.
A man who used to work with Stephens at a dog training facility told CBS 6 that Stephens was very experienced working with animals, and loved her dogs.
He said she had one of them named “Tonk” for a while, and he could not imagine him doing this to her.
He said the other one was newer, but he thought it came from the same litter.
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Agnew described the scene as one of the most grisly he has seen in his 40 years of law enforcement.
“It was very clear the woman in the woods had suffered severe injuries consistent with being mauled by these dogs,” Agnew said.
The sheriff said that according to a preliminary report from the medical examiner, Stephens two pit bulls, each weighing about the same amount as her, 125 pounds, killed their owner.
“There were no strangulation marks, the victim had puncture wounds in the skull and this was not a homicide,” Agnew said.
A man who used to work with Stephens at a dog training facility told CBS 6 that Stephens was very experienced working with animals, and loved her dogs.
He said she had one of them named “Tonk” for a while, and he could not imagine him doing this to her.
He said the other one was newer, but he thought it came from the same litter.
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cwtcr will soon inform us that other breeds bite as well.
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Sad story. A few years ago, my wife worked in a traumatic brain injury unit at the local hospital. She cared for a little boy (4 or 5 years old) was in there recovering from brain surgery to remove a cancerous tumor. She would take him gifts and did everything she could to make him feel better. The little boy battled and beat the cancer.
Just a few days ago she got a message on FB from his mother. Apparently this little boy was out walking in his neighborhood when 3 dogs got out of a neighbor's house and attacked and killed him. It not clear what kind of dogs they were, but I'm going to guess they were not pugs or dashounds.
http://wkrn.com/2017/12/02/8-year-old-s ... h-by-dogs/
Just a few days ago she got a message on FB from his mother. Apparently this little boy was out walking in his neighborhood when 3 dogs got out of a neighbor's house and attacked and killed him. It not clear what kind of dogs they were, but I'm going to guess they were not pugs or dashounds.
http://wkrn.com/2017/12/02/8-year-old-s ... h-by-dogs/
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Sad. You're going to be shocked to hear this, but I googled it and the 911 dispatch call describes 2 pit bulls and 1 German Shepherd.UpstateSCHokie wrote:Sad story. A few years ago, my wife worked in a traumatic brain injury unit at the local hospital. She cared for a little boy (4 or 5 years old) was in there recovering from brain surgery to remove a cancerous tumor. She would take him gifts and did everything she could to make him feel better. The little boy battled and beat the cancer.
Just a few days ago she got a message on FB from his mother. Apparently this little boy was out walking in his neighborhood when 3 dogs got out of a neighbor's house and attacked and killed him. It not clear what kind of dogs they were, but I'm going to guess they were not pugs or dashounds.
http://wkrn.com/2017/12/02/8-year-old-s ... h-by-dogs/
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Yep, I told my wife when it happened that I bet pit bulls (or a pit bull mix) was involved.USN_Hokie wrote:Sad. You're going to be shocked to hear this, but I googled it and the 911 dispatch call describes 2 pit bulls and 1 German Shepherd.UpstateSCHokie wrote:Sad story. A few years ago, my wife worked in a traumatic brain injury unit at the local hospital. She cared for a little boy (4 or 5 years old) was in there recovering from brain surgery to remove a cancerous tumor. She would take him gifts and did everything she could to make him feel better. The little boy battled and beat the cancer.
Just a few days ago she got a message on FB from his mother. Apparently this little boy was out walking in his neighborhood when 3 dogs got out of a neighbor's house and attacked and killed him. It not clear what kind of dogs they were, but I'm going to guess they were not pugs or dashounds.
http://wkrn.com/2017/12/02/8-year-old-s ... h-by-dogs/
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1bGVzNJ1ydO
Perhaps pit bulls are just as likely to be mean as other breeds, I don't know. But the problem is, if they are mean the consequences are far more severe than most other breeds. If you scored this on an FMEA, I'm pretty sure pit bulls would come out as a red risk, whereas most other breeds would be yellow or green. In fact, if people took an FMEA approach to dogs, I'm guessing that almost no one would want to own or live near a pit bull.
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I think a very large percentage of Pit Bull owners get them *because* they're dangerous.UpstateSCHokie wrote: In fact, if people took an FMEA approach to dogs, I'm guessing that almost no one would want to own or live near a pit bull.
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I don’t know anything about FMEA, but cwtcr was once bit by a cocker spaniel and all dogs have teeth. deal with that excrement. Next.UpstateSCHokie wrote:Yep, I told my wife when it happened that I bet pit bulls (or a pit bull mix) was involved.USN_Hokie wrote:Sad. You're going to be shocked to hear this, but I googled it and the 911 dispatch call describes 2 pit bulls and 1 German Shepherd.UpstateSCHokie wrote:Sad story. A few years ago, my wife worked in a traumatic brain injury unit at the local hospital. She cared for a little boy (4 or 5 years old) was in there recovering from brain surgery to remove a cancerous tumor. She would take him gifts and did everything she could to make him feel better. The little boy battled and beat the cancer.
Just a few days ago she got a message on FB from his mother. Apparently this little boy was out walking in his neighborhood when 3 dogs got out of a neighbor's house and attacked and killed him. It not clear what kind of dogs they were, but I'm going to guess they were not pugs or dashounds.
http://wkrn.com/2017/12/02/8-year-old-s ... h-by-dogs/
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1bGVzNJ1ydO
Perhaps pit bulls are just as likely to be mean as other breeds, I don't know. But the problem is, if they are mean the consequences are far more severe than most other breeds. If you scored this on an FMEA, I'm pretty sure pit bulls would come out as a red risk, whereas most other breeds would be yellow or green. In fact, if people took an FMEA approach to dogs, I'm guessing that almost no one would want to own or live near a pit bull.
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they are ghetto dogs owned by and large by uneducated people. Fact. No strawman or anecdote will change that.USN_Hokie wrote:I think a very large percentage of Pit Bull owners get them *because* they're dangerous.UpstateSCHokie wrote: In fact, if people took an FMEA approach to dogs, I'm guessing that almost no one would want to own or live near a pit bull.
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not worth the discussion with you, you won't discuss and you do not comprehend. Sorry dogs bite and their are really bad owners out there. Then again people kill and there are some really bad parents out thereip_law-hokie wrote:I don’t know anything about FMEA, but cwtcr was once bit by a cocker spaniel and all dogs have teeth. deal with that excrement. Next.UpstateSCHokie wrote:Yep, I told my wife when it happened that I bet pit bulls (or a pit bull mix) was involved.USN_Hokie wrote:Sad. You're going to be shocked to hear this, but I googled it and the 911 dispatch call describes 2 pit bulls and 1 German Shepherd.UpstateSCHokie wrote:Sad story. A few years ago, my wife worked in a traumatic brain injury unit at the local hospital. She cared for a little boy (4 or 5 years old) was in there recovering from brain surgery to remove a cancerous tumor. She would take him gifts and did everything she could to make him feel better. The little boy battled and beat the cancer.
Just a few days ago she got a message on FB from his mother. Apparently this little boy was out walking in his neighborhood when 3 dogs got out of a neighbor's house and attacked and killed him. It not clear what kind of dogs they were, but I'm going to guess they were not pugs or dashounds.
http://wkrn.com/2017/12/02/8-year-old-s ... h-by-dogs/
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1bGVzNJ1ydO
Perhaps pit bulls are just as likely to be mean as other breeds, I don't know. But the problem is, if they are mean the consequences are far more severe than most other breeds. If you scored this on an FMEA, I'm pretty sure pit bulls would come out as a red risk, whereas most other breeds would be yellow or green. In fact, if people took an FMEA approach to dogs, I'm guessing that almost no one would want to own or live near a pit bull.
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Exactly. Thats why labs are equivalent to pit bulls. What is there to discuss? Next.cwtcr hokie wrote:not worth the discussion with you, you won't discuss and you do not comprehend. Sorry dogs bite and their are really bad owners out there. Then again people kill and there are some really bad parents out thereip_law-hokie wrote:I don’t know anything about FMEA, but cwtcr was once bit by a cocker spaniel and all dogs have teeth. deal with that excrement. Next.UpstateSCHokie wrote:Yep, I told my wife when it happened that I bet pit bulls (or a pit bull mix) was involved.USN_Hokie wrote:Sad. You're going to be shocked to hear this, but I googled it and the 911 dispatch call describes 2 pit bulls and 1 German Shepherd.UpstateSCHokie wrote:Sad story. A few years ago, my wife worked in a traumatic brain injury unit at the local hospital. She cared for a little boy (4 or 5 years old) was in there recovering from brain surgery to remove a cancerous tumor. She would take him gifts and did everything she could to make him feel better. The little boy battled and beat the cancer.
Just a few days ago she got a message on FB from his mother. Apparently this little boy was out walking in his neighborhood when 3 dogs got out of a neighbor's house and attacked and killed him. It not clear what kind of dogs they were, but I'm going to guess they were not pugs or dashounds.
http://wkrn.com/2017/12/02/8-year-old-s ... h-by-dogs/
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1bGVzNJ1ydO
Perhaps pit bulls are just as likely to be mean as other breeds, I don't know. But the problem is, if they are mean the consequences are far more severe than most other breeds. If you scored this on an FMEA, I'm pretty sure pit bulls would come out as a red risk, whereas most other breeds would be yellow or green. In fact, if people took an FMEA approach to dogs, I'm guessing that almost no one would want to own or live near a pit bull.
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Yep. I'm not trying to besmirch the deceased, but the "sleeve" tattoos on the young lady weren't surprising.CFB Apologist wrote:they are ghetto dogs owned by and large by uneducated people. Fact. No strawman or anecdote will change that.USN_Hokie wrote:I think a very large percentage of Pit Bull owners get them *because* they're dangerous.UpstateSCHokie wrote: In fact, if people took an FMEA approach to dogs, I'm guessing that almost no one would want to own or live near a pit bull.
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My opinion is evolving:USN_Hokie wrote:http://wtvr.com/2017/12/15/bethany-step ... nd-county/
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Agnew described the scene as one of the most grisly he has seen in his 40 years of law enforcement.
“It was very clear the woman in the woods had suffered severe injuries consistent with being mauled by these dogs,” Agnew said.
The sheriff said that according to a preliminary report from the medical examiner, Stephens two pit bulls, each weighing about the same amount as her, 125 pounds, killed their owner.
“There were no strangulation marks, the victim had puncture wounds in the skull and this was not a homicide,” Agnew said.
A man who used to work with Stephens at a dog training facility told CBS 6 that Stephens was very experienced working with animals, and loved her dogs.
He said she had one of them named “Tonk” for a while, and he could not imagine him doing this to her.
He said the other one was newer, but he thought it came from the same litter.
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A man who used to work with Stephens at a dog training facility told CBS 6 that Stephens was very experienced working with animals, and loved her dogs.
He said she had one of them named “Tonk” for a while, and he could not imagine him doing this to her.
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Eh. Friendly Pit bulls are like responsible gun owners.TheH2 wrote:My opinion is evolving:USN_Hokie wrote:http://wtvr.com/2017/12/15/bethany-step ... nd-county/
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Agnew described the scene as one of the most grisly he has seen in his 40 years of law enforcement.
“It was very clear the woman in the woods had suffered severe injuries consistent with being mauled by these dogs,” Agnew said.
The sheriff said that according to a preliminary report from the medical examiner, Stephens two pit bulls, each weighing about the same amount as her, 125 pounds, killed their owner.
“There were no strangulation marks, the victim had puncture wounds in the skull and this was not a homicide,” Agnew said.
A man who used to work with Stephens at a dog training facility told CBS 6 that Stephens was very experienced working with animals, and loved her dogs.
He said she had one of them named “Tonk” for a while, and he could not imagine him doing this to her.
He said the other one was newer, but he thought it came from the same litter.
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A man who used to work with Stephens at a dog training facility told CBS 6 that Stephens was very experienced working with animals, and loved her dogs.
He said she had one of them named “Tonk” for a while, and he could not imagine him doing this to her.
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More law abiding than the average citizen? I guess you're technically correct since a pit bull can't break a law as a dog, per se.ip_law-hokie wrote: Eh. Friendly Pit bulls are like responsible gun owners.
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85 murders in charlotte this year so far, yep, talk nice and wait for the cops......then they can bring the van for your dead body. Again, you can't discuss anything, not worth the effortip_law-hokie wrote:Eh. Friendly Pit bulls are like responsible gun owners.TheH2 wrote:My opinion is evolving:USN_Hokie wrote:http://wtvr.com/2017/12/15/bethany-step ... nd-county/
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Agnew described the scene as one of the most grisly he has seen in his 40 years of law enforcement.
“It was very clear the woman in the woods had suffered severe injuries consistent with being mauled by these dogs,” Agnew said.
The sheriff said that according to a preliminary report from the medical examiner, Stephens two pit bulls, each weighing about the same amount as her, 125 pounds, killed their owner.
“There were no strangulation marks, the victim had puncture wounds in the skull and this was not a homicide,” Agnew said.
A man who used to work with Stephens at a dog training facility told CBS 6 that Stephens was very experienced working with animals, and loved her dogs.
He said she had one of them named “Tonk” for a while, and he could not imagine him doing this to her.
He said the other one was newer, but he thought it came from the same litter.
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A man who used to work with Stephens at a dog training facility told CBS 6 that Stephens was very experienced working with animals, and loved her dogs.
He said she had one of them named “Tonk” for a while, and he could not imagine him doing this to her.
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lol.ip_law-hokie wrote:Eh. Friendly Pit bulls are like responsible gun owners.TheH2 wrote:My opinion is evolving:USN_Hokie wrote:http://wtvr.com/2017/12/15/bethany-step ... nd-county/
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Agnew described the scene as one of the most grisly he has seen in his 40 years of law enforcement.
“It was very clear the woman in the woods had suffered severe injuries consistent with being mauled by these dogs,” Agnew said.
The sheriff said that according to a preliminary report from the medical examiner, Stephens two pit bulls, each weighing about the same amount as her, 125 pounds, killed their owner.
“There were no strangulation marks, the victim had puncture wounds in the skull and this was not a homicide,” Agnew said.
A man who used to work with Stephens at a dog training facility told CBS 6 that Stephens was very experienced working with animals, and loved her dogs.
He said she had one of them named “Tonk” for a while, and he could not imagine him doing this to her.
He said the other one was newer, but he thought it came from the same litter.
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A man who used to work with Stephens at a dog training facility told CBS 6 that Stephens was very experienced working with animals, and loved her dogs.
He said she had one of them named “Tonk” for a while, and he could not imagine him doing this to her.
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Then why do you reply?cwtcr hokie wrote:85 murders in charlotte this year so far, yep, talk nice and wait for the cops......then they can bring the van for your dead body. Again, you can't discuss anything, not worth the effortip_law-hokie wrote:Eh. Friendly Pit bulls are like responsible gun owners.TheH2 wrote:My opinion is evolving:USN_Hokie wrote:http://wtvr.com/2017/12/15/bethany-step ... nd-county/
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Agnew described the scene as one of the most grisly he has seen in his 40 years of law enforcement.
“It was very clear the woman in the woods had suffered severe injuries consistent with being mauled by these dogs,” Agnew said.
The sheriff said that according to a preliminary report from the medical examiner, Stephens two pit bulls, each weighing about the same amount as her, 125 pounds, killed their owner.
“There were no strangulation marks, the victim had puncture wounds in the skull and this was not a homicide,” Agnew said.
A man who used to work with Stephens at a dog training facility told CBS 6 that Stephens was very experienced working with animals, and loved her dogs.
He said she had one of them named “Tonk” for a while, and he could not imagine him doing this to her.
He said the other one was newer, but he thought it came from the same litter.
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A man who used to work with Stephens at a dog training facility told CBS 6 that Stephens was very experienced working with animals, and loved her dogs.
He said she had one of them named “Tonk” for a while, and he could not imagine him doing this to her.
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Maybe they triggered the dog?USN_Hokie wrote:Yep. I'm not trying to besmirch the deceased, but the "sleeve" tattoos on the young lady weren't surprising.CFB Apologist wrote:they are ghetto dogs owned by and large by uneducated people. Fact. No strawman or anecdote will change that.USN_Hokie wrote:I think a very large percentage of Pit Bull owners get them *because* they're dangerous.UpstateSCHokie wrote: In fact, if people took an FMEA approach to dogs, I'm guessing that almost no one would want to own or live near a pit bull.
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I took your response as TIC, but the loved and well trained pit bulls were found by the police eating her rib cage when they found her.TheH2 wrote: My opinion is evolving:A man who used to work with Stephens at a dog training facility told CBS 6 that Stephens was very experienced working with animals, and loved her dogs.
He said she had one of them named “Tonk” for a while, and he could not imagine him doing this to her.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/12/19/de ... -says.html
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there is always hope that you can actually have an adult conversationip_law-hokie wrote:Then why do you reply?cwtcr hokie wrote:85 murders in charlotte this year so far, yep, talk nice and wait for the cops......then they can bring the van for your dead body. Again, you can't discuss anything, not worth the effortip_law-hokie wrote:Eh. Friendly Pit bulls are like responsible gun owners.TheH2 wrote:My opinion is evolving:USN_Hokie wrote:http://wtvr.com/2017/12/15/bethany-step ... nd-county/
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Agnew described the scene as one of the most grisly he has seen in his 40 years of law enforcement.
“It was very clear the woman in the woods had suffered severe injuries consistent with being mauled by these dogs,” Agnew said.
The sheriff said that according to a preliminary report from the medical examiner, Stephens two pit bulls, each weighing about the same amount as her, 125 pounds, killed their owner.
“There were no strangulation marks, the victim had puncture wounds in the skull and this was not a homicide,” Agnew said.
A man who used to work with Stephens at a dog training facility told CBS 6 that Stephens was very experienced working with animals, and loved her dogs.
He said she had one of them named “Tonk” for a while, and he could not imagine him doing this to her.
He said the other one was newer, but he thought it came from the same litter.
...
A man who used to work with Stephens at a dog training facility told CBS 6 that Stephens was very experienced working with animals, and loved her dogs.
He said she had one of them named “Tonk” for a while, and he could not imagine him doing this to her.
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No, I was serious. The quotes about the dog and owner from a trainer are insightful.USN_Hokie wrote:I took your response as TIC, but the loved and well trained pit bulls were found by the police eating her rib cage when they found her.TheH2 wrote: My opinion is evolving:A man who used to work with Stephens at a dog training facility told CBS 6 that Stephens was very experienced working with animals, and loved her dogs.
He said she had one of them named “Tonk” for a while, and he could not imagine him doing this to her.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/12/19/de ... -says.html
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You think somebody who trains pitbulls is going to say something bad about pit bulls? Hell it could be seen as a liability if he said anything different.TheH2 wrote:No, I was serious. The quotes about the dog and owner from a trainer are insightful.USN_Hokie wrote:I took your response as TIC, but the loved and well trained pit bulls were found by the police eating her rib cage when they found her.TheH2 wrote: My opinion is evolving:A man who used to work with Stephens at a dog training facility told CBS 6 that Stephens was very experienced working with animals, and loved her dogs.
He said she had one of them named “Tonk” for a while, and he could not imagine him doing this to her.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/12/19/de ... -says.html
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He should. His statement is an indictment of pit bulls. These are (were) great dogs with a great owner and they still killed the owner.USN_Hokie wrote:You think somebody who trains pitbulls is going to say something bad about pit bulls? Hell it could be seen as a liability if he said anything different.TheH2 wrote:No, I was serious. The quotes about the dog and owner from a trainer are insightful.USN_Hokie wrote:I took your response as TIC, but the loved and well trained pit bulls were found by the police eating her rib cage when they found her.TheH2 wrote: My opinion is evolving:A man who used to work with Stephens at a dog training facility told CBS 6 that Stephens was very experienced working with animals, and loved her dogs.
He said she had one of them named “Tonk” for a while, and he could not imagine him doing this to her.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/12/19/de ... -says.html
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