California Begins Confiscating Legally-Purchased Guns
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Re: California Begins Confiscating Legally-Purchased Guns
This is not going to end well. Eventually someone is going to get fed up and start shooting back.
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click on "WOW" in the first post
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click "WOW" above.USN_Hokie wrote:Link?
Otherwise http://downtrend.com/travis/california- ... ased-guns/
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On my iPod, links don't seem to work in tapatalk. I don't know if there is a trick to it or what but when I click nothing happens.awesome guy wrote:click "WOW" above.USN_Hokie wrote:Link?
Otherwise http://downtrend.com/travis/california- ... ased-guns/
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same here on my Samsung S4 Galaxy.BigDave wrote:On my iPod, links don't seem to work in tapatalk. I don't know if there is a trick to it or what but when I click nothing happens.awesome guy wrote:click "WOW" above.USN_Hokie wrote:Link?
Otherwise http://downtrend.com/travis/california- ... ased-guns/
Try
http://downtrend.com/travis/california- ... ased-guns/
or http://downtrend.com/travis/california- ... ased-guns/
or test link
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now they all work but are treating url as a literal.awesome guy wrote:same here on my Samsung S4 Galaxy.BigDave wrote:On my iPod, links don't seem to work in tapatalk. I don't know if there is a trick to it or what but when I click nothing happens.awesome guy wrote:click "WOW" above.USN_Hokie wrote:Link?
Otherwise http://downtrend.com/travis/california- ... ased-guns/
Try
http://downtrend.com/travis/california- ... ased-guns/
or http://downtrend.com/travis/california- ... ased-guns/
or test link
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I'm on tapatalk, it seems like the links don't work when there's a text title for it. When just the link is pasted, it works fine.BigDave wrote:On my iPod, links don't seem to work in tapatalk. I don't know if there is a trick to it or what but when I click nothing happens.awesome guy wrote:click "WOW" above.USN_Hokie wrote:Link?
Otherwise http://downtrend.com/travis/california- ... ased-guns/
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Second link works, thanks.
This is the same BS they're playing in MD. They're looking in SEALED juvenile records on the basis that someone applying to buy a gun is an open investigation. This is BS, because that citizen cannot request to view their records or open an investigation.
That's right - people are being denied the purchase of a gun (and having all the guns in their home confiscated at gunpoint) via information gleaned from court records that the applicant isn't able to even view.
They haven't even expanded the list of prohibited persons...they're just broadening their interpretation of what puts someone in that prohibited category. For example...taking a kid who went to juvenile court for a fistfight at school and then having a police officer make an arbitrary decision that your fistfight would correlate to 1st degree assault and thus, your right to own a firearm is gone.
Did I mention that some of these juvenile cases were PBJ? PBJ shouldn't correlate to any conviction.
They're also denying people because they have an "open investigation" in their records (for a security clearance, not a crime), or unpaid tickets (MVA is one of the databases MSP checks).
This is why I laugh when people claim that voters are being disenfranchised because they're forced to show one ID before voting. Supplying two forms of ID is just the beginning of the headache in a gun purchase....a process which currently takes well over 100 days in the state of MD....
This is the same BS they're playing in MD. They're looking in SEALED juvenile records on the basis that someone applying to buy a gun is an open investigation. This is BS, because that citizen cannot request to view their records or open an investigation.
That's right - people are being denied the purchase of a gun (and having all the guns in their home confiscated at gunpoint) via information gleaned from court records that the applicant isn't able to even view.
They haven't even expanded the list of prohibited persons...they're just broadening their interpretation of what puts someone in that prohibited category. For example...taking a kid who went to juvenile court for a fistfight at school and then having a police officer make an arbitrary decision that your fistfight would correlate to 1st degree assault and thus, your right to own a firearm is gone.
Did I mention that some of these juvenile cases were PBJ? PBJ shouldn't correlate to any conviction.
They're also denying people because they have an "open investigation" in their records (for a security clearance, not a crime), or unpaid tickets (MVA is one of the databases MSP checks).
This is why I laugh when people claim that voters are being disenfranchised because they're forced to show one ID before voting. Supplying two forms of ID is just the beginning of the headache in a gun purchase....a process which currently takes well over 100 days in the state of MD....
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I've read a lot of posts here and in other places where the responder claims "they would have to pry his gun from his cold dead fingers" and "they better not try that excrement with me" etc, etc, etc. What is your honest answer to the question, "what if they come to confiscate your gun?" Are you really willing to stand up to a crew of cops or military that have come to get your gun? How do you really fight this kind of bullshirt? Be honest.
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If it has the link codes before and after the link, tapatalk doesn't recognize it.... I think.BigDave wrote:On my iPod, links don't seem to work in tapatalk. I don't know if there is a trick to it or what but when I click nothing happens.awesome guy wrote:click "WOW" above.USN_Hokie wrote:Link?
Otherwise http://downtrend.com/travis/california- ... ased-guns/
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What guns?RWNJ wrote:I've read a lot of posts here and in other places where the responder claims "they would have to pry his gun from his cold dead fingers" and "they better not try that excrement with me" etc, etc, etc. What is your honest answer to the question, "what if they come to confiscate your gun?" Are you really willing to stand up to a crew of cops or military that have come to get your gun? How do you really fight this kind of bullshirt? Be honest.awesome guy wrote:WOW
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"I don't have that gun anymore, officer. I went to go clean it just yesterday and it was gone. I had just picked up the phone to report it stolen when you knocked. Oh, you want to come in and look for yourself? Just let me see your warrant."USN_Hokie wrote:What guns?RWNJ wrote:I've read a lot of posts here and in other places where the responder claims "they would have to pry his gun from his cold dead fingers" and "they better not try that excrement with me" etc, etc, etc. What is your honest answer to the question, "what if they come to confiscate your gun?" Are you really willing to stand up to a crew of cops or military that have come to get your gun? How do you really fight this kind of bullshirt? Be honest.awesome guy wrote:WOW
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"I keep my guns under my copy of the constitution".Hokie CPA wrote:"I don't have that gun anymore, officer. I went to go clean it just yesterday and it was gone. I had just picked up the phone to report it stolen when you knocked. Oh, you want to come in and look for yourself? Just let me see your warrant."USN_Hokie wrote:What guns?RWNJ wrote:I've read a lot of posts here and in other places where the responder claims "they would have to pry his gun from his cold dead fingers" and "they better not try that excrement with me" etc, etc, etc. What is your honest answer to the question, "what if they come to confiscate your gun?" Are you really willing to stand up to a crew of cops or military that have come to get your gun? How do you really fight this kind of bullshirt? Be honest.awesome guy wrote:WOW
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Answer the question HONESTLY of who you were in TSL and I'll give you my answer.RWNJ wrote:I've read a lot of posts here and in other places where the responder claims "they would have to pry his gun from his cold dead fingers" and "they better not try that excrement with me" etc, etc, etc. What is your honest answer to the question, "what if they come to confiscate your gun?" Are you really willing to stand up to a crew of cops or military that have come to get your gun? How do you really fight this kind of bullshirt? Be honest.awesome guy wrote:WOW
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Considering people submit to daily state violations of their liberty, having 30%-50% of their income confiscated, licenses/permits for everything under the sun... I doubt their gun will be the the tipping point, especially if confronted by multiple armed agents.
RWNJ wrote:I've read a lot of posts here and in other places where the responder claims "they would have to pry his gun from his cold dead fingers" and "they better not try that excrement with me" etc, etc, etc. What is your honest answer to the question, "what if they come to confiscate your gun?" Are you really willing to stand up to a crew of cops or military that have come to get your gun? How do you really fight this kind of bullshirt? Be honest.awesome guy wrote:WOW
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Marine Hokie wrote:Considering people submit to daily state violations of their liberty, having 30%-50% of their income confiscated, licenses/permits for everything under the sun... I doubt their gun will be the the tipping point, especially if confronted by multiple armed agents.
RWNJ wrote:I've read a lot of posts here and in other places where the responder claims "they would have to pry his gun from his cold dead fingers" and "they better not try that excrement with me" etc, etc, etc. What is your honest answer to the question, "what if they come to confiscate your gun?" Are you really willing to stand up to a crew of cops or military that have come to get your gun? How do you really fight this kind of bullshirt? Be honest.awesome guy wrote:WOW
I still don't think that door-to-door confiscation will ever happen in the us. Besides the legal and moral issues, it's just too damn resource-intensive.
Liberals would be content just banning everything and picking up people one by one as they mess up for something else. Just one example: In NY state, the government has a database of who owns a newly-banned firearm and is supposedly asking people for "proof" that their contraband has been destroyed before renewing licenses and such.
The other tactic (which we already discussed) is not banning firearms, but rather, banning people.
Besides, if you're too scared to use or be seen with a gun, how is that any different from your guns being taken away already? There's a good unattributed quote in the gun culture: "If it's time bury them [your guns ], then it's time to dig them up." Point is, if jack-booted thugs are going to show up at your door, then it's too late already.
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I agree with you, I was just responding to RWNJ's hypothetical. They're content to slowly chip away at when and where you can carry them, buy them, make them, etc.
USN_Hokie wrote:Marine Hokie wrote:Considering people submit to daily state violations of their liberty, having 30%-50% of their income confiscated, licenses/permits for everything under the sun... I doubt their gun will be the the tipping point, especially if confronted by multiple armed agents.
RWNJ wrote:I've read a lot of posts here and in other places where the responder claims "they would have to pry his gun from his cold dead fingers" and "they better not try that excrement with me" etc, etc, etc. What is your honest answer to the question, "what if they come to confiscate your gun?" Are you really willing to stand up to a crew of cops or military that have come to get your gun? How do you really fight this kind of bullshirt? Be honest.awesome guy wrote:WOW
I still don't think that door-to-door confiscation will ever happen in the us. Besides the legal and moral issues, it's just too damn resource-intensive.
Liberals would be content just banning everything and picking up people one by one as they mess up for something else. Just one example: In NY state, the government has a database of who owns a newly-banned firearm and is supposedly asking people for "proof" that their contraband has been destroyed before renewing licenses and such.
The other tactic (which we already discussed) is not banning firearms, but rather, banning people.
Besides, if you're too scared to use or be seen with a gun, how is that any different from your guns being taken away already? There's a good unattributed quote in the gun culture: "If it's time bury them [your guns ], then it's time to dig them up." Point is, if jack-booted thugs are going to show up at your door, then it's too late already.
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Roger, I didn't mean to suggest otherwise - was just typing out loud.Marine Hokie wrote:I agree with you, I was just responding to RWNJ's hypothetical. They're content to slowly chip away at when and where you can carry them, buy them, make them, etc.
USN_Hokie wrote:Marine Hokie wrote:Considering people submit to daily state violations of their liberty, having 30%-50% of their income confiscated, licenses/permits for everything under the sun... I doubt their gun will be the the tipping point, especially if confronted by multiple armed agents.
RWNJ wrote:I've read a lot of posts here and in other places where the responder claims "they would have to pry his gun from his cold dead fingers" and "they better not try that excrement with me" etc, etc, etc. What is your honest answer to the question, "what if they come to confiscate your gun?" Are you really willing to stand up to a crew of cops or military that have come to get your gun? How do you really fight this kind of bullshirt? Be honest.awesome guy wrote:WOW
I still don't think that door-to-door confiscation will ever happen in the us. Besides the legal and moral issues, it's just too damn resource-intensive.
Liberals would be content just banning everything and picking up people one by one as they mess up for something else. Just one example: In NY state, the government has a database of who owns a newly-banned firearm and is supposedly asking people for "proof" that their contraband has been destroyed before renewing licenses and such.
The other tactic (which we already discussed) is not banning firearms, but rather, banning people.
Besides, if you're too scared to use or be seen with a gun, how is that any different from your guns being taken away already? There's a good unattributed quote in the gun culture: "If it's time bury them [your guns ], then it's time to dig them up." Point is, if jack-booted thugs are going to show up at your door, then it's too late already.
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It's a problem with TT4.
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If you have to lie to get people out of their house, and you can't get a search warrant to perform the activity, then that should be a clear indicator that what you are doing is wrong.awesome guy wrote:WOW
Not to mention a complete waste of time. Also, the funds were diverted from the fund that is used to perform background checks. They should either improve the background check system, or lower the taxes imposed on gun purchases.